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04:01:28 #corewars: < bvowk> hrm
04:07:26 #corewars:  * bvowk rattles all
04:12:47 #corewars: < bvowk> bah
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10:48:21 #corewars: < Mizcu> CC
10:48:34 #corewars: < CoreChild> Hi Mizcu.
10:48:51 #corewars: < CoreChild> New version of Provenance, but doesn't score much different :-(
10:49:03 #corewars: < CoreChild> So, I think I'll call it the final version
10:51:38 #corewars:  * CoreChild inspects Christian's new page
10:54:31 #corewars: < CoreChild> Looks good
11:01:46 #corewars: < Mizcu> darnit
11:02:00 #corewars: < Mizcu> (optimizing cacodemon, again)
11:05:33 #corewars: < CoreChild> :-)
11:07:59 #corewars: < Mizcu> i already got again to 126 wilfiz, but still, the paper overflows the stone
11:08:49 #corewars: < CoreChild> What do you mean by overflows?
11:09:10 #corewars: < Mizcu> process balance
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11:11:25 #corewars: < Mizcu> ah, thats the reason
11:11:28 #corewars: < MarsFreak> Hmmm...
11:11:38 #corewars: < Mizcu> the stone was not made with double-spl 0 in mind
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11:12:06 #corewars: < Mizcu> it hits the first spl
11:12:14 #corewars: < MarsFreak> Do you have a double SPL in the stone, or do you put lots of processes into it?
11:12:31 #corewars: < MarsFreak> The paper hits the first SPL?
11:12:39 #corewars: < Mizcu> 5 processes into stone -> w/ double spl
11:12:45 #corewars: < Mizcu> the stone hits the first spl
11:13:13 #corewars: < Mizcu> 1 process -> paperlaunch (make 12)
11:13:22 #corewars: < MarsFreak> Intentionally?
11:13:48 #corewars: < Mizcu> not intentionally
11:14:24 #corewars: < Mizcu> since i didnt create the stone originally with double spl, i didnt care about bomb hitting at the instruction behind spl
11:14:36 #corewars: < Mizcu> but now that there are two spl's..
11:15:47 #corewars: < MarsFreak> Just change the step so it hits it later, when it's already split off lots of processes.
11:16:35 #corewars: < Mizcu> i am not in the mood for finding new stone-steps
11:17:12 #corewars: < MarsFreak> Unless you use a mod 1 step, in which case it isn't quite so easy
11:18:09 #corewars: < Mizcu> Why would i use a mod bigger than mod-2 in a stone?
11:18:17 #corewars: < Mizcu> yes, its a mod-1
11:19:20 #corewars: < MarsFreak> :-(
11:19:52 #corewars: < MarsFreak> Do you have a program which finds mod 1 steps (and how long it can bomb for without hitting certain cells)?
11:20:14 #corewars: < Mizcu> no
11:21:30 #corewars: < MarsFreak> It would be handy.  I have one in GWBasic I can send to you if you like.
11:22:42 #corewars: < MarsFreak> Basically, it tests every possible step, then sorts the by how long that step would bomb for.  You edit a string which looks like this as the input parameter:
11:22:45 #corewars: < Mizcu> oh BTW, the tournament scheduler you made in basic some time ago, i have problems to get it work
11:23:05 #corewars: < MarsFreak> "***x***...*"
11:23:12 #corewars: < MarsFreak> *=don't bomb this cell
11:23:44 #corewars: < MarsFreak> .=doesn't matter if this one bombed
11:24:15 #corewars: < MarsFreak> x=this cell should be bombed at the end of the bombing run (i.e. to switch to clear)
11:24:58 #corewars: < MarsFreak> The tournament scheduler uses GWBasic, which isn't aware of filenames longer that 8 character.
11:25:23 #corewars: < MarsFreak> If you keep filenames to 8.3 it should be okay.  Unless you had a different problem
11:25:49 #corewars: < MarsFreak> I have a better version now (still with the 8.3 filename problem though)
11:26:38 #corewars: < MarsFreak> I can send you that if you wish.  It is used to make the infinite tiny hill, so it has tool-tip strategies...  I just added output of individual battles too
11:26:49 #corewars: < Mizcu> both quickbasic and firstbasic fail to compile it
11:27:23 #corewars: < MarsFreak> :-(
11:27:36 #corewars: < MarsFreak> I can send you GWBasic if you like, it's only about 80K
11:28:00 #corewars: < Mizcu> i've had it to work once, but i might've damaged the source
11:28:08 #corewars: < MarsFreak> Jakub has a Perl version
11:28:16 #corewars: < Mizcu> and i still dont remember how to exit from gwbasic :)
11:28:48 #corewars: < MarsFreak> Oh, back later
11:28:50 #corewars:  * MarsFreak waves
11:29:01 #corewars: < MarsFreak> "system"
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17:14:45 #corewars: < grabek> well
17:22:58 #corewars: < brx> hello grabi
17:23:04 #corewars: < brx> how's studying
17:23:13 #corewars: < brx> or are you done?!
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18:20:23 #corewars: < Metcalf> Hi
18:21:33 #corewars: < Mizcu> hi Met
18:25:53 #corewars: < brx> hello
18:29:04 #corewars: < Metcalf> Hi Brx
18:30:45 #corewars:  * Metcalf is now offering the source of Provenance as a bonus to who-ever guesses Unknown :-)
18:35:01 #corewars: < Metcalf> Are you taking part in RF17?
18:39:15 #corewars: < Mizcu> (no)
18:42:12 #corewars: < Metcalf> I will, but I don't really have time.
18:42:38 #corewars: < Metcalf> The bit of time I do have, I try to use for code which is of general use, rather than something specialist
18:45:50 #corewars: < Metcalf> Unless of course, it is a specialist of general use :-)
18:49:08 #corewars: < Metcalf> Talking of specialist, think of all those stones which bomb with DAT STEP,1
18:49:33 #corewars: < Metcalf> How can we take advantage of knowing STEP, or even HOP?
18:53:07 #corewars: < Mizcu> what use would analyzation be of if you'd met devilish's 1, -1 bomb?
18:54:08 #corewars: < Mizcu> i am a bit sceptic on the usefulness of such analyzation unless on IRC or p-spacer
18:54:32 #corewars: < Mizcu> ircT
18:56:38 #corewars: < Metcalf> On finding a bomb you could check if it contained any information of use.
18:57:38 #corewars: < Metcalf> Or you could compare the bomb to lots of known bombs to see which warrior you are fighting and use an appropriate attack (though I don't like this approach)
19:18:50 #corewars: < Metcalf> time to go :-/
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21:08:00 #corewars: < bvowk> hrm
21:09:51 #corewars: < Mizcu> hi bvowk
21:10:20 #corewars: < bvowk> hello
22:08:37 #corewars: < grabek> hel
22:08:38 #corewars: < grabek> lo
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