--- Log opened Wed Feb 25 11:49:19 2004 11:49:24 !irc.koth.org *** Looking up your hostname... 11:49:24 !irc.koth.org *** Checking Ident 11:49:25 !irc.koth.org *** No Ident response 11:49:26 !irc.koth.org *** Found your hostname 11:49:27 !irc.koth.org *** Your host is irc.koth.org[216.231.108.170/6667], running version 2.8/hybrid-6.3.1 11:49:27 -!- Mode change [+i] for user jakub 11:49:31 -!- jakub [~jakub@134.gymko.ba.gtsi.sk] has joined #corewars 11:49:36 -!- You're now known as jk_log 11:58:27 #corewars: * will_varf *yawns* 11:58:50 #corewars: < will_varf> bb after lunch 11:58:52 -!- will_varf [~Will@arken-16-57-37.ip-pluggen.com] has quit [Lämnar] 12:10:10 -!- Roy [~roy_van_r@kf-mss-cb01-00480.dial.kabelfoon.nl] has joined #corewars 12:15:35 #corewars: < Ares> bb after a round of master of orion 12:15:39 -!- Ares [~nom@62.47.93.238] has quit [] 13:11:34 -!- willvarfa [~Will@arken-16-57-53.ip-pluggen.com] has joined #corewars 13:11:43 #corewars: < Roy> hi will 13:12:14 #corewars: < willvarfa> hello Roy 13:12:16 #corewars: < willvarfa> sup? 13:12:40 #corewars: < Roy> not much, making a flash movie for my girlfriend, you? 13:12:51 #corewars: < Roy> the switcher didn't score that well didn't it? :( 13:16:02 #corewars: < willvarfa> nope :-( 13:16:03 #corewars: < willvarfa> sorry 13:16:21 #corewars: < willvarfa> you know, infact, it actually gave points to the enemies of our silver bullets 13:17:09 #corewars: < Roy> yes, and yours was much better, and VERY small, how did you do that? 13:19:38 #corewars: < willvarfa> well actually I missed two chars 13:19:44 #corewars: < willvarfa> I would have won :-( 13:29:24 -!- Roy [~roy_van_r@kf-mss-cb01-00480.dial.kabelfoon.nl] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:32:45 -!- will_varf [~Will@arken-16-57-112.ip-pluggen.com] has joined #corewars 13:35:37 -!- willvarfa [~Will@arken-16-57-53.ip-pluggen.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 180 seconds] 13:57:03 -!- brx [~brx@pD9EAAE15.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #corewars 13:57:39 -!- Ares [~nom@62.47.93.238] has joined #corewars 13:57:45 #corewars: < Ares> hello 13:58:08 #corewars: < Ares> question: is it common to have large p-spaces? 13:58:48 #corewars: < brx> hm. it's pspace==coresize mostly on pspace hills... am I right? grabek? 13:59:43 #corewars: < Ares> its only a designproblem, i dont want the window width > 1024 13:59:58 #corewars: < Ares> and i need some more pixels for the scrollbar... 14:00:09 #corewars: < brx> hm no i guess it's 1/16*coresize 14:01:08 #corewars: < will_varf> it can be whatever 14:01:25 #corewars: < will_varf> safest to have a scrollbar so you can allow for any size of pspace 14:01:28 #corewars: < brx> sure but he asks if it is "common" to have large pspaces 14:02:27 #corewars: < Ares> i could get the space in x-axis by removing one column in the adress, meaning adresses show max. 100000 14:02:29 #corewars: < will_varf> well a frenzy round where pspace > cycles*nwarriors would make brainwashing pretty ineffective 14:03:10 #corewars: < Ares> brainwashing? is there a warrior called cia or so? 14:03:32 #corewars: < Ares> *smiles* 14:03:49 -!- willvarfa [~Will@arken-16-57-83.ip-pluggen.com] has joined #corewars 14:04:59 #corewars: < willvarfa> indeed there is :-) 14:06:01 #corewars: < brx> nah, it's a technique. either you alter enemy pspace code or you make it execute your pspace instructions. guess it is used against strategy switchers and the like. am not sure. am newbie. 14:06:26 -!- will_varf [~Will@arken-16-57-112.ip-pluggen.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 180 seconds] 14:06:29 #corewars: * Ares shakes head 14:06:56 #corewars: < brx> you don#t agree with me? i see. := 14:06:56 #corewars: < brx> :) 14:07:39 #corewars: < Ares> how can you alter enemy pscace, and code in pspace? did i miss something? 14:08:14 #corewars: < brx> well you can alter an enemy's pspace by making the enemy execute pspace instructions you have placed somewhere in the core. 14:08:29 #corewars: < Ares> sure 14:08:39 #corewars: < brx> you can not directly alter an enemy's pspace.. 14:08:50 #corewars: < brx> i did not say more i think 14:09:17 #corewars: < Ares> i'm glad... wouldnt have been surprised much, if there was some pspace extention or so... 14:09:54 #corewars: < brx> i think the '94 draft is pretty complete 14:09:56 #corewars: < Ares> nope 14:09:58 #corewars: < brx> well hmmm 14:09:59 #corewars: < brx> not sure 14:10:07 #corewars: < brx> do some pseudo instructions miss? 14:10:20 #corewars: < brx> what's missing 14:10:21 #corewars: < Ares> PIN for example, as pspace at all 14:10:30 #corewars: < brx> pspace is missing? 14:10:55 #corewars: < Ares> and the a-modes * { } 14:11:13 #corewars: < Ares> its all in pMARS but not in the draft 14:11:23 #corewars: < Ares> and the testing warriors are missing, too 14:11:50 #corewars: < Ares> i plant to write an updated draft, when i'm through this 14:12:30 #corewars: < brx> i see you are right 14:12:55 #corewars: < willvarfa> we need a DRAFT'04 maybe; 10 years on, time to ratify? 14:13:01 #corewars: < Ares> okay, ic that i have to make the pspace view in an extra window... 14:13:07 #corewars: < Ares> *g* 14:14:08 #corewars: < Ares> and the c source had an error 14:14:08 #corewars: < brx> okay, my mail client just lost all of my accounts, filters and settings 14:14:10 #corewars: < Ares> in the eval 14:14:20 #corewars: < Ares> (has) 14:29:12 #corewars: < Ares> 29a - the hexadecimal of the beast 14:33:48 #corewars: < jaska> heh 14:34:56 -!- will_varf [~Will@arken-16-57-97.ip-pluggen.com] has joined #corewars 14:37:50 -!- willvarfa [~Will@arken-16-57-83.ip-pluggen.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 180 seconds] 14:39:27 #corewars: < will_varf> hello jaska 14:41:16 #corewars: < jaska> lo will. 15:06:25 -!- willvarfa [~Will@arken-16-57-43.ip-pluggen.com] has joined #corewars 15:08:12 -!- Mizcu [Mizcu@dsl-hkigw4m4a.dial.inet.fi] has joined #corewars 15:09:24 -!- will_varf [~Will@arken-16-57-97.ip-pluggen.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 180 seconds] 15:16:54 -!- Ares [~nom@62.47.93.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 180 seconds] 15:25:03 -!- Ares [~nom@62.47.93.238] has joined #corewars 15:27:01 -!- willvarfa [~Will@arken-16-57-43.ip-pluggen.com] has quit [Lämnar] 15:29:15 -!- bvowk_ [~bvowk@h24-67-137-90.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #corewars 15:29:18 #corewars: < bvowk_> feh 15:29:50 #corewars: < Mizcu> bvowk 15:29:58 #corewars: < bvowk_> yes? 15:30:22 #corewars: < Mizcu> hi 15:32:13 #corewars: < bvowk_> hello :) 15:33:39 -!- willvarfa [~Will@arken-16-57-16.ip-pluggen.com] has joined #corewars 15:58:51 -!- will_varf [~Will@arken-16-57-115.ip-pluggen.com] has joined #corewars 15:59:48 -!- bvowk_ [~bvowk@h24-67-137-90.ed.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 180 seconds] 16:01:18 -!- willvarfa [~Will@arken-16-57-16.ip-pluggen.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 180 seconds] 16:30:02 -!- willvarfa [~Will@arken-16-57-110.ip-pluggen.com] has joined #corewars 16:30:38 #corewars: < Ares> reinrausreinraus... 16:31:17 #corewars: < Ares> like an airport - departure/arrival/departure/arrival 16:31:59 #corewars: < Mizcu> this isnt bad yet 16:32:11 #corewars: < Ares> wow. 16:32:35 #corewars: < Mizcu> you should see how bad it can get on a channel of 600 users 16:32:51 -!- will_varf [~Will@arken-16-57-115.ip-pluggen.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 180 seconds] 16:32:52 #corewars: < Ares> i seldom use irc 16:33:15 #corewars: < Ares> the www is mostly a larger lan to me 16:36:49 -!- bvowk [~bvowk@h24-67-137-90.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #corewars 16:41:51 -!- willvarfa [~Will@arken-16-57-110.ip-pluggen.com] has quit [Lämnar] 17:27:28 #corewars: < Ares> what happens on STP.F or .I ? 17:28:34 #corewars: < Mizcu> stp.b , i guess 17:29:34 #corewars: < Ares> hm... i will find out sometimes... and .X?? funny things 17:30:02 #corewars: < Mizcu> F, I and X are ignored with p-space 17:30:13 #corewars: < Ares> oh, fine 17:55:40 -!- Ares [~nom@62.47.93.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 180 seconds] 18:15:12 -!- Fizmo [~fizmo_mas@pD9E6E46D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #corewars 18:15:17 #corewars: < Fizmo> hi 18:16:05 #corewars: < Mizcu> hi 18:16:13 #corewars: < Fizmo> hi miz 18:32:27 #corewars: < Mizcu> sheesh, i need more creativity 18:35:12 #corewars: < Mizcu> (and now i got TOO creative idea..) 18:35:49 #corewars: < Fizmo> :) 18:36:35 #corewars: < Fizmo> too creative? 18:38:38 #corewars: < Mizcu> Paper that contains sort of vampiric attack: every paper of copy contains some fangs in form of Jmp -step, something. Together, the stepsizes would be chosen so that fangs create a "chain" to a suicidal pit 18:42:18 #corewars: < Fizmo> Sounds interesting 18:43:29 #corewars: < Fizmo> How large is the chance to get self-stunned 18:44:04 #corewars: < Mizcu> problem: anti-fang, if the jmp's are contained in the paper, there is additional chance for the paper to get opponent's processes 18:45:19 #corewars: < Mizcu> and should the pit be just a bunch of stp's and non-# spl's, or selfsplitting hellhole? 18:46:56 #corewars: < Mizcu> first one would be more efficient in killing stones & scanners, while latter would tie more and gain ~couple of wins against other papers 18:47:01 #corewars: < Fizmo> for the 94 draft hill stp are good for brainwash 18:47:41 #corewars: < Fizmo> But a spl carpet is only usefull if you can wipe it before end 18:48:14 #corewars: < Mizcu> thus few processes could be put into the pit to assure pit's own coreclear 18:50:57 #corewars: < Mizcu> in theory, jmp-carpets could wipe older copies the throw stunned copies into the pit, but then again the pit will be also spl-carpeted with big possibility 18:52:52 #corewars: < Fizmo> how do it score against other strategies 18:53:11 #corewars: < Fizmo> maybe one could adjust it to be anti-paper 18:54:00 #corewars: < Mizcu> it would probably score against stones like normal, against scanners like cc-paper, and slightly better against other papers 18:54:40 #corewars: < Mizcu> But the problem is how much bombing can be implemented. 18:54:55 #corewars: < Fizmo> hmm 18:55:23 #corewars: < Mizcu> and what kind of pit would be used 18:56:10 #corewars: < Fizmo> hmm, difficult to say in advance. Just trying out different types. 19:06:05 -!- Metcalf [~John@217.158.137.194] has joined #corewars 19:06:14 #corewars: < Fizmo> hi 19:07:16 #corewars: < Metcalf> Hi Christian 19:07:22 #corewars: < Metcalf> Anything new? 19:07:39 #corewars: < Metcalf> Christian, there are a few dead links on your page now. 19:07:56 #corewars: < Metcalf> Knight's page has disappeared, as have a few others :-P 19:08:02 #corewars: < Fizmo> ermhh, yes. I should do a major update of my page 19:08:03 #corewars: < Metcalf> :-P equ :-( 19:08:35 #corewars: < Fizmo> Also alot of IRCT links are dead links so far :-/ 19:08:36 #corewars: * Metcalf has been doing a major update for ages on his page 19:08:41 #corewars: < Metcalf> :-( 19:08:50 #corewars: < Fizmo> but IRCT 33-35 are online 19:09:09 #corewars: < Fizmo> BTW, did you receive my e-mails? 19:09:11 #corewars: * Metcalf has pages for IRCT 1 - 28 inclusive, with just one missing. (not all are online though.) 19:09:24 #corewars: < Metcalf> It's quite a lot of work making a new page every week 19:09:33 #corewars: < Metcalf> Ah yes, I was going to reply. 19:15:50 -!- willvarfa [~Will@arken-16-57-81.ip-pluggen.com] has joined #corewars 19:15:56 #corewars: < willvarfa> hi folks 19:16:06 #corewars: < Metcalf> Hi Will 19:16:15 #corewars: < Metcalf> Just missed you yesterday 19:16:39 #corewars: < willvarfa> no probs 19:16:50 #corewars: < willvarfa> internet at home? 19:17:22 #corewars: < Metcalf> No, installed Xircon at netcafe! 19:17:40 #corewars: < Fizmo> hi Will 19:33:57 #corewars: < Mizcu> mov.i 2, @2 | jmz pstep3, checksum, | jmp -step, +step - how the fang could be carpeted ? 19:45:32 -!- will_varf [~Will@arken-16-57-21.ip-pluggen.com] has joined #corewars 19:48:16 -!- willvarfa [~Will@arken-16-57-81.ip-pluggen.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 180 seconds] 19:52:22 -!- Ares [~nom@62.47.93.238] has joined #corewars 19:54:54 #corewars: < Metcalf> Hi Ares 19:55:26 #corewars: < Fizmo> Hi 19:55:38 #corewars: < Mizcu> our should the last replication be left out and use some mov.i 2, <2 -solution? 20:00:15 -!- Jeff_K [~sascha@dial-194-8-196-69.netcologne.de] has joined #corewars 20:00:27 #corewars: < Jeff_K> Hi all! 20:00:28 #corewars: < Metcalf> Hi Sascha 20:00:39 #corewars: < Metcalf> I have to leave in 2 minutes, closing time :-/ 20:00:42 #corewars: < Jeff_K> Hello John, long ago i've seen you here ! 20:00:50 #corewars: < Metcalf> Yes :-( 20:00:52 #corewars: < Jeff_K> Hmm, o.k. cu 20:01:06 #corewars: < Metcalf> I'm never here at the right time to bump into everyone 20:01:38 #corewars: < Jeff_K> One day you can IRc when you want.. 20:01:56 #corewars: < will_varf> bye John /me *waves* 20:02:03 #corewars: * Jeff_K waves 20:03:10 #corewars: < Fizmo> Hi Sascha 20:03:21 #corewars: < Jeff_K> Hi Chris.. Wie schauts ? 20:04:46 #corewars: * Fizmo hat mit dem Rauchen aufgehört 20:06:21 #corewars: < Metcalf> Okay, time to go. 20:06:26 #corewars: * Metcalf waves 20:06:46 #corewars: * Jeff_K waves 20:07:37 #corewars: * Fizmo waves 20:07:53 -!- joonas [jpihlaja@kruuna.helsinki.fi] has joined #corewars 20:08:11 #corewars: < joonas> hi 20:08:23 #corewars: < Jeff_K> Hi joonas, good evening 20:08:38 #corewars: < Mizcu> hi j 20:08:53 #corewars: < Metcalf> Hi Joonas 20:08:57 #corewars: * Metcalf waves 20:09:06 #corewars: * joonas waves at M 20:09:13 #corewars: < joonas> etcalf 20:09:18 -!- Metcalf [~John@217.158.137.194] has quit [mov.i #1,1] 20:09:35 #corewars: < Fizmo> Hi Joonas 20:09:36 #corewars: < bvowk> hrm 20:09:38 #corewars: < will_varf> hi 20:09:52 #corewars: < bvowk> joonas arrives, metcalf leaves 20:13:28 -!- michal [~michal@host-ip2-246.crowley.pl] has joined #corewars 20:13:43 -!- joonas is now known as jaway 20:13:52 #corewars: < Jeff_K> Woww, such a traffic without weekend ;-) 20:14:45 #corewars: < Ares> rush-hour all day here... 20:15:41 #corewars: < Jeff_K> Hi, Hmm, ares...the name of a redcode-tool---debugger - right ? 20:16:18 #corewars: < Ares> ja 20:16:34 #corewars: < Ares> working on an updated version 20:16:36 -!- willvarfa [~Will@arken-16-57-67.ip-pluggen.com] has joined #corewars 20:17:51 #corewars: < Jeff_K> Ares: Nice have seen Screenshot. We need good debuggers any time. 20:17:51 #corewars: < jaway> brb 20:18:11 #corewars: < Ares> *g* 20:19:03 -!- will_varf [~Will@arken-16-57-21.ip-pluggen.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 180 seconds] 20:21:33 #corewars: < bvowk> jaway is going more away? 20:22:26 #corewars: < bvowk> jaway^2? 20:23:15 -!- Ares [~nom@62.47.93.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 180 seconds] 20:26:06 -!- jaway is now known as smeagol 20:26:26 -!- smeagol is now known as joonas 20:26:29 #corewars: < joonas> back 20:26:50 #corewars: < bvowk> jubilex of course) 20:26:55 #corewars: < bvowk> doh 20:27:29 -!- Ares [~nom@62.47.93.238] has joined #corewars 20:29:37 -!- Roy [~roy_van_r@kf-mss-cb01-00480.dial.kabelfoon.nl] has joined #corewars 20:29:41 #corewars: * Roy is finaly done! 20:29:48 #corewars: < Roy> Woah, lots of people here 20:29:51 #corewars: < Jeff_K> Hi Roy 20:30:00 #corewars: < Fizmo> Hi Roy 20:30:08 #corewars: < bvowk> roy: but sadly some of us are not all here. 20:30:21 #corewars: < Roy> http://tinyurl.com/ywglm <- a card made in flash for my girlfriend 20:31:08 #corewars: < Roy> Thats too bad, I haven't seen so much people even on sundays! 20:32:33 #corewars: < Ares> question: is a STP #n, #0 ignored or executed? 20:33:27 #corewars: < joonas> executed 20:33:32 #corewars: < Ares> thx 20:37:16 #corewars: < Fizmo> Cool flash, Roy 20:40:12 #corewars: < Ares> cant find out, what PIN is... can you give me a hint? 20:40:34 #corewars: < Fizmo> warriors with the same PIN share theire pspace 20:40:40 #corewars: < Fizmo> except #0 20:40:47 #corewars: < joonas> it's a pseudo-op that tells the MARS that you're p-space is shared with all other warriors that have that PIN. 20:41:04 #corewars: < Ares> is it in multiple warrior mode (>2 in one battle)? 20:41:10 #corewars: < joonas> yes 20:41:25 #corewars: < joonas> also 2 warrior mode. 20:42:07 #corewars: < Ares> ic... 20:42:09 #corewars: < Roy> Fiz: Thanks 20:42:49 #corewars: < Ares> if you wanna have a preview: http://harald.ist.org/freeware/aresbeta 20:43:06 #corewars: < Fizmo> joonas: but the pspace location #0 won't be shared in this case 20:43:13 #corewars: < joonas> yes 20:43:17 #corewars: < joonas> it won't be 20:43:22 #corewars: < Ares> p space complete, but not yet tested, and PIN missing 20:44:18 #corewars: < Ares> and END still wants a parameter :-)=) 20:46:34 #corewars: < Ares> coffee.sys not found - sysop halted 20:47:36 #corewars: < bvowk> its true.. no coffee makes me a sleepy boy 20:47:38 -!- will_varf [~Will@arken-16-57-110.ip-pluggen.com] has joined #corewars 20:50:28 -!- willvarfa [~Will@arken-16-57-67.ip-pluggen.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 180 seconds] 21:18:46 -!- willvarfa [~Will@arken-16-57-106.ip-pluggen.com] has joined #corewars 21:21:10 -!- Roy [~roy_van_r@kf-mss-cb01-00480.dial.kabelfoon.nl] has quit [] 21:21:17 -!- will_varf [~Will@arken-16-57-110.ip-pluggen.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 180 seconds] 21:34:48 #corewars: < Fizmo> Ok, I have to go new 21:35:04 #corewars: < michal> bye 21:35:06 #corewars: < Fizmo> now 21:35:12 #corewars: < Fizmo> not new ;-) 21:35:29 #corewars: * joonas waves 21:35:33 #corewars: * willvarfa *waves* 21:35:42 #corewars: * Ares waves 21:36:14 #corewars: * Fizmo waves 21:36:25 -!- Fizmo [~fizmo_mas@pD9E6E46D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 21:36:45 #corewars: * Jeff_K waves. 21:36:58 -!- Jeff_K [~sascha@dial-194-8-196-69.netcologne.de] has left #corewars [] 21:37:15 #corewars: < joonas> no-one please send anything to sal for about an hour 21:37:25 #corewars: * joonas goes to do something dangerous 21:37:28 #corewars: < Ares> would anyone give me some *simple* warriors for testing, that use read/write limits? simple=no FOR, no PIN, but Pspace would be ok 21:37:35 #corewars: < Ares> ui! 21:39:30 #corewars: < willvarfa> you could look on the appropriate hills at Koeningshutl 21:40:20 #corewars: < Ares> most of the warriors there use many for statements... i tried some... hm. also wanting simple progs 21:40:44 #corewars: < willvarfa> you could use pmars to preprocess it? 21:41:27 #corewars: < Ares> thats a word 21:46:27 #corewars: < Ares> no limits there? 21:47:25 #corewars: < joonas> check for redcode-X in their headers 21:49:53 -!- will_varf [~Will@arken-16-57-34.ip-pluggen.com] has joined #corewars 21:52:15 -!- willvarfa [~Will@arken-16-57-106.ip-pluggen.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 180 seconds] 21:57:22 #corewars: < joonas> 7msg will_varf to be on the safe side, you could compare the run of exhaust-dbg with pmars-dbg in the pmars-0.9.2-dbg tarball. 21:57:36 #corewars: < joonas> doh.. /msg I mean. :) 22:08:42 #corewars: < joonas> goodbye, cruel world, here comes the new one... 22:20:55 -!- willvarfa [~Will@arken-16-57-3.ip-pluggen.com] has joined #corewars 22:23:25 -!- will_varf [~Will@arken-16-57-34.ip-pluggen.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 180 seconds] 22:31:20 #corewars: * grabek has a strange feeling that few things pass me by 22:31:44 #corewars: * bvowk runs past grabek 22:46:59 #corewars: * brx feels stressed 22:47:29 #corewars: < Ares> if you don't stop talking so much, i'll logoff 22:47:38 #corewars: < willvarfa> lol 22:51:48 #corewars: * grabek feels kind of tired and goes to bed 22:52:04 -!- will_varf [~Will@arken-16-57-44.ip-pluggen.com] has joined #corewars 22:52:07 #corewars: < grabek> there'll be a bunch of updates tomorrow 22:53:45 #corewars: < brx> grabek: 22:53:54 #corewars: < brx> i think i like you. 22:54:22 -!- willvarfa [~Will@arken-16-57-3.ip-pluggen.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 180 seconds] 22:54:43 #corewars: < grabek> i don't see your point, brx, but it's nice to hear such a statement 22:54:49 #corewars: * grabek blushes 22:54:57 #corewars: * Ares grins 22:57:12 #corewars: < brx> ^^ 22:57:31 #corewars: < Ares> gra: writing warriors? 22:57:40 #corewars: < grabek> no, not exactly. 22:57:49 #corewars: < Ares> what then? 22:58:09 #corewars: < grabek> updating page and trying to get it working 22:58:14 #corewars: < brx> www.dwarfscorner.com 22:58:22 #corewars: * Ares surfin' 22:58:42 #corewars: < brx> new design again 22:58:42 #corewars: < brx> lol 22:58:51 #corewars: < brx> grabek: this one i don#t like as much ^^ 22:59:59 #corewars: < Ares> "Just exactly what is a virius?" 23:00:09 #corewars: < grabek> brx: i like it clean and plain, i think 23:00:13 #corewars: < grabek> no fancy stuff any more 23:00:20 #corewars: < brx> grabek: sure, but now it's so... big 23:00:21 #corewars: < Ares> on page virii paranois - is spelling virIus intended? 23:00:47 #corewars: < grabek> read the comments, Ares 23:01:02 #corewars: < grabek> somehow, i was sure that virii is plural of virus in latin 23:01:07 #corewars: < brx> btw grabek, i will research on the origin of "virii" 23:01:07 #corewars: < grabek> whilst it's not 23:01:22 #corewars: < grabek> :-) 23:01:26 #corewars: < brx> the links did not satisfy me ;) 23:01:30 #corewars: < Ares> virii = pl, but its virus in sg 23:01:59 #corewars: < Ares> nice design, looks clean 23:02:00 #corewars: < grabek> virii is not plural, it seems 23:02:12 #corewars: < grabek> Ares: oh thanks, that was my intention 23:02:24 #corewars: < grabek> i can't get this page to look properly in IE 23:02:41 #corewars: < brx> it looks okay in firefox 23:03:04 #corewars: < Ares> oh, pl of virus is virus 23:03:27 #corewars: < Ares> als gen = virus 23:03:47 #corewars: < brx> gen = viri 23:03:50 #corewars: < brx> that i know for sure 23:04:10 #corewars: < brx> sg gen that is. 23:04:10 #corewars: < grabek> virus = venom 23:04:48 #corewars: * grabek is confused 23:04:54 #corewars: < Ares> book says virus, -i, meaning "slime" 23:04:59 #corewars: < brx> yup 23:05:01 #corewars: < brx> slime 23:05:03 #corewars: < brx> :) 23:05:10 #corewars: < brx> btw ares you're german too right? 23:05:21 #corewars: < Ares> yes 23:05:35 #corewars: < grabek> wow, so many Germans around here recently 23:05:39 #corewars: < Ares> austrian, in fact 23:05:44 #corewars: < Ares> vienna 23:06:22 #corewars: < grabek> nice city 23:06:27 #corewars: < grabek> *very* nice, actually 23:06:41 #corewars: * grabek was to Vienna, once 23:06:47 #corewars: < Ares> but when its virus, -i, then pl should be viri, too, or is it an exception? 23:06:54 #corewars: < brx> ah i remember 23:06:56 #corewars: < grabek> Landstrasser Hauptstrasse, the place i lived in then 23:06:58 #corewars: < brx> austria 23:07:00 #corewars: < Ares> oh 23:07:15 #corewars: < grabek> Ares: it was my mistake 23:07:23 #corewars: < grabek> i mean that 'virii' title 23:07:30 #corewars: < brx> Ares: see, we don#t know if there was a latin plural for virus it seems 23:07:47 #corewars: < Ares> *g* 23:07:52 #corewars: < brx> grabek: ares still thinks virii is the correct plural form 23:07:59 #corewars: < joonas> I'm sure "virii" vs. "virus" is someone's pet peeve and they've written a rant about it. 23:08:09 #corewars: < brx> joonas: correct 23:08:14 #corewars: < brx> which is why i am going to research 23:08:22 #corewars: < brx> not now however 23:08:35 #corewars: < grabek> brx: will you mail me about your results? 23:08:44 #corewars: < joonas> http://www.perl.com/language/misc/virus.html 23:09:08 #corewars: < brx> personal problems leading to depression, depression leading to lack of motivation 23:09:11 #corewars: < Ares> as virus means "slime", there would not be a plural, i think 23:09:12 #corewars: < brx> grabek: sure 23:09:41 #corewars: < Ares> brx: so dont let you get depressed, push back 23:09:46 #corewars: < grabek> lol joonas 23:10:10 #corewars: < grabek> i like the very first line 23:10:30 #corewars: < grabek> well, guys, time i went, really 23:10:37 #corewars: < grabek> see you tomorrow, i think 23:10:38 #corewars: < brx> bye grabek! 23:10:40 #corewars: * will_varf *waves* 23:10:42 #corewars: < Ares> cu 23:10:44 #corewars: < grabek> maybe with new section? who knows. :-) 23:10:47 #corewars: < joonas> succintness like that you don't see often. :) 23:10:49 #corewars: * grabek waves 23:10:52 #corewars: < joonas> bye 23:17:41 #corewars: < Ares> Vocative examples of virus are not particularly common. Apparently the Romans seldom addressed their slime in a personal fashion. :-) 23:18:17 #corewars: < Ares> rofl 23:23:11 -!- willvarfa [~Will@arken-16-57-63.ip-pluggen.com] has joined #corewars 23:25:56 -!- will_varf [~Will@arken-16-57-44.ip-pluggen.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 180 seconds] 23:26:57 #corewars: * willvarfa *waves* 23:27:02 -!- willvarfa [~Will@arken-16-57-63.ip-pluggen.com] has quit [Lämnar] 23:27:03 #corewars: < Ares> bye 23:38:58 #corewars: < joonas> sal's back up. 23:47:08 #corewars: < brx> i'm back down 23:47:13 #corewars: < brx> actually i am tired 23:47:16 #corewars: < brx> good night ^^ 23:47:59 -!- joonas [jpihlaja@kruuna.helsinki.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 180 seconds] 23:48:12 #corewars: < Ares> good night 23:51:04 -!- brx [~brx@pD9EAAE15.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [gn8 ;)] 23:59:48 -!- joonas [jpihlaja@kruuna.helsinki.fi] has joined #corewars --- Log closed Thu Feb 26 00:00:26 2004