--- Log opened Sat Feb 14 00:00:40 2004
00:00:49 #corewars: < grabek> damn you guys
00:01:01 #corewars: < grabek> i thought i was talking to one person
00:01:02 #corewars: < grabek> *sigh*
00:01:16 #corewars: < bvowk> huh?
00:01:18 #corewars:  * bvowk wonders
00:01:28 #corewars: < bvowk> (perhaps grabek has slipped a cog!)
00:02:02 #corewars:  * bvowk contemplates the sound of one cog slipping
00:04:29 #corewars: < brx> ?
00:04:41 #corewars: < brx> our nicknames
00:09:45 #corewars: < grabek> yeah
00:21:46 #corewars:  * grabek missed a page; i have bookmarked it at the office, now i can't find it on google
00:27:32 #corewars: < brx> valentinesday ^^
00:45:57 #corewars: < grabek> http://www.mezzoblue.com/zengarden/alldesigns
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09:21:50 #corewars: < grabek> hi
09:34:54 #corewars: < grabek> http://css.maxdesign.com.au/
09:34:56 #corewars: < grabek> yikes
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13:12:59 #corewars: < brx> hi
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14:53:04 #corewars: < grabek> hi
14:53:48 #corewars: < brx> hi ^^
14:53:59 #corewars: < brx> need to fetch some food
14:55:04 #corewars:  * grabek is works on his page
14:59:57 #corewars:  * grabek tries to complete a good color scheme
15:10:21 #corewars: < grabek> how do you like it?
15:10:22 #corewars: < grabek> :-)
15:39:43 #corewars: < brx> it's sweet, i liked the other one too though ^^
15:44:59 #corewars: < grabek> ;-)
15:45:01 #corewars: < grabek> hm, thx
15:45:19 #corewars: < grabek> i'd like to add some graphics, as well
15:53:18 #corewars: < brx> what kind of graphics
15:56:21 #corewars: < grabek> i don't know, small icons like in http://www.smallbits.com
16:04:39 #corewars: < brx> hm
16:05:03 #corewars: < brx> btw grabek, what's your favorite warrior type
16:05:18 #corewars: < grabek> take a guess
16:07:14 #corewars: < brx> dwarves? ^^
16:07:22 #corewars: < grabek> :-)
16:07:27 #corewars: < grabek> stones and bombers
16:08:04 #corewars: < brx> mhm
16:09:13 #corewars: < grabek> ?
16:09:31 #corewars: < brx> just thinking
16:10:50 #corewars: < grabek> aw
16:11:07 #corewars:  * grabek tiptoes into his corner. i don't want to disturb.
16:11:14 #corewars: < brx> lol
16:11:31 #corewars: < brx> you could help actually.
16:11:53 #corewars: < brx> give me exercises
16:11:54 #corewars: < brx> ^^
16:12:56 #corewars: < grabek> about?
16:13:17 #corewars: < grabek> you want redcode/stone-bomber exercise? :-)
16:13:26 #corewars: < brx> anything ^^
16:14:19 #corewars: < grabek> hm
16:14:48 #corewars: < grabek> make a stone that bombs the core and then clears with a clear stream going forward and which does not suicide
16:14:52 #corewars: < grabek> :-)
16:14:55 #corewars: < grabek> this is a good one
16:15:09 #corewars: < grabek> it does not have to be mod-1 bomber
16:15:21 #corewars: < brx> ah what's a mod-1 bomber ^^
16:16:23 #corewars: < grabek> that uses mod-1 step
16:16:33 #corewars: < grabek> this will be the next article on my page
16:18:05 #corewars:  * brx nods
16:18:56 #corewars: < brx> i made something similar yesterday i think
16:19:19 #corewars: < grabek> you may read CW #11, I think
16:19:23 #corewars: < grabek> it will give you some light
16:19:26 #corewars: < brx> a stone which bombed the core, selfbombed and went into a clear (using an airbag)
16:20:40 #corewars: < grabek> oh?
16:20:47 #corewars: < grabek> would you mind revealing the code?
16:21:55 #corewars: < brx> hum?
16:22:02 #corewars:  * brx shivers
16:22:50 #corewars: < brx> it was an exercise too.. it's not useful.... i am afraid of showing it anybody :)
16:23:30 #corewars: < grabek> oh give it a break
16:23:38 #corewars: < brx> hm?
16:23:45 #corewars: < grabek> don't be ashamed, i mean
16:25:08 #corewars: < brx> okay.
16:25:25 #corewars: < brx> oh well, i suppose it's much better to share this so you can criticize me
16:25:41 #corewars: < brx> wait a moment, going to make an ftp dir
16:27:00 #corewars: < grabek> lol
16:27:18 #corewars: < grabek> i am not gonna criticize you
16:27:33 #corewars: < brx> well or give tips rather ^^
16:28:59 #corewars: < grabek> sure
16:29:47 #corewars: < brx> it's not competitive
16:30:27 #corewars: < grabek> oh come on
16:30:42 #corewars: < brx> lol
16:32:57 #corewars: < grabek> corewar.ehost.pl/book/behemot/index_2.html
16:33:05 #corewars: < grabek> is it clear or rather not?
16:36:24 #corewars: < grabek> what is spl -4 for?
16:44:21 #corewars: < brx> oh
16:44:23 #corewars: < brx> there you are
16:45:16 #corewars: < grabek> quick tips
16:45:31 #corewars: < grabek> first, you don't have to use a seperate pointer
16:45:42 #corewars: < grabek> for booting
16:45:49 #corewars: < grabek> in spl 1 you have a free b field
16:46:00 #corewars: < grabek> which can be used as a pointer
16:46:02 #corewars: < grabek> something like
16:46:05 #corewars: < brx> mhm, ok
16:46:05 #corewars: < grabek> spl 1, from
16:46:07 #corewars: < brx> i understand
16:46:07 #corewars: < grabek> spl 1, to
16:46:15 #corewars: < grabek> mov <-2, <-1
16:46:28 #corewars: < grabek> you can change #4 step to #3364
16:46:39 #corewars: < grabek> this is also a mod-4 step but gives much better spread
16:46:49 #corewars: < grabek> now, what is spl -4 for
16:47:02 #corewars: < grabek> (have you noticed you copy your warrior right below the boot code?)
16:47:18 #corewars: < brx> i have :) i told you it was not competitive ^^
16:47:38 #corewars: < brx> at the moment i am trying to get a better grasp of redcode
16:49:49 #corewars: < grabek> the easiest way is to browse other's code
16:51:12 #corewars: < grabek> you may try to improve on someone's code
16:51:14 #corewars: < grabek> for example
16:51:27 #corewars: < brx> ah. yes i dislike reading other people's code though.
16:51:48 #corewars: < brx> i rather have some abstract talk about techniques and stuff :)
16:51:53 #corewars: < grabek> oh
16:52:00 #corewars: < grabek> so
16:52:05 #corewars: < grabek> imo the easiest are stone/imps
16:52:14 #corewars: < grabek> you make a stone, slap a imp launcher et voila
16:52:31 #corewars: < brx> what about survivability
16:54:39 #corewars: < grabek> hm
16:54:51 #corewars: < grabek> there's a canonical text about this by Ian Oversby
16:54:55 #corewars: < grabek> cW #69
16:54:59 #corewars: < grabek> CW, i mean
16:55:32 #corewars: < grabek> you have to balance things between strong imps (a defence) and stone (attack)
16:55:45 #corewars: < brx> kk
16:55:50 #corewars: < brx> let me check
16:55:59 #corewars: < grabek> Ian's article is one of most influential texts in cw history
16:57:13 #corewars: < brx> how so?
16:57:19 #corewars: < grabek> imo
16:57:25 #corewars: < grabek> in corewar
16:57:29 #corewars: < grabek> it is not the first place
16:57:34 #corewars: < grabek> it is longevity that counts
16:57:43 #corewars: < grabek> you see, it is easy to grab a first place
16:58:29 #corewars: < grabek> but it is *very* though to create a long-living warriors
17:00:05 #corewars: < jaska> as in longevity in a hill?
17:00:15 #corewars: < brx> i think so
17:00:36 #corewars: < jaska> yeah, i can see why it is possible to be extremely hard as new warriors can be adjusted to accommodate
17:00:47 #corewars: < jaska> assuming its a hill that publishes code
17:01:25 #corewars: < grabek> you know, it is variety of classes your warrior can beat
17:01:50 #corewars: < grabek> there're stones that beat paper and scissors that win with bombers
17:20:56 #corewars: < grabek> ok, a little update to second part of behemot's story
17:21:06 #corewars: < grabek> i am off to take a shower and to go out for a date
17:21:09 #corewars: < grabek> see you later
17:34:43 #corewars: < brx> see you
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18:41:46 #corewars: < bvowk_> hrm
18:57:55 #corewars: < brx> hrm
18:58:12 #corewars: < brx> how does a paper kill an impring
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20:16:43 #corewars: < Fizmo> hi
20:19:31 #corewars: < bvowk_> hrm
20:19:35 #corewars: < bvowk_> greets fizmo
20:19:44 #corewars: < Fizmo> greets bvowk
20:20:06 #corewars: < Fizmo> how is going?
20:20:26 #corewars: < bvowk_> pretty well
20:22:03 #corewars: < bvowk_> you?
20:22:47 #corewars: < Fizmo> hrmm, I lost both league games today :-/
20:23:07 #corewars: < bvowk_> thats unfortuneate
20:24:13 #corewars: < Fizmo> yep. It was running very unlucky for me.
20:24:41 #corewars: < Fizmo> good shape + no luck -> lose
20:25:30 #corewars: < bvowk_> oh well, if you won them all it wouldn't be much fun :)
20:26:58 #corewars: < Fizmo> :)
20:27:27 #corewars: < Fizmo> I won approximately 70 % of my games
20:41:26 #corewars: < Fizmo> ok, I have to go now
20:41:28 #corewars: < Fizmo> bye
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23:55:07 #corewars: < grabek> oh hi?
23:55:36 #corewars: < phunk> Hello.
23:56:51 #corewars: < grabek> you are?
23:57:52 #corewars: < phunk> Nobody important.
23:58:13 #corewars: < phunk> Just found this place playing around with Corewar.
23:58:28 #corewars: < grabek> oh good
23:58:49 #corewars: < grabek> it is quiet here
23:58:58 #corewars: < grabek> most of corewar folk live in europe
23:59:11 #corewars: < grabek> and sunday is about to start
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