--- Log opened Fri Feb 13 16:57:36 2004
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16:57:57 #corewars: < jakub> hello
17:08:14 #corewars: < jakub> http://www.gjh.sk/~0kozisek/Hawking
17:08:16 #corewars: < jakub> cya
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17:52:58 #corewars: < grabek> hm
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17:55:14 #corewars: < CoreChild> Hi
18:04:07 #corewars: < bvowk> Hi John
18:04:12 #corewars: < bvowk> How goes it?
18:05:11 #corewars: < CoreChild> Hi Bvowk.
18:05:17 #corewars: < CoreChild> Okay at the moment
18:05:30 #corewars: < CoreChild> Just doing a bit more research for my new web apge
18:05:33 #corewars: < bvowk> at the moment implies you have'nt been ok recently
18:05:36 #corewars: < CoreChild> apge EQU page
18:05:43 #corewars: < CoreChild> stress!
18:05:58 #corewars: < bvowk> stress about what? 
18:06:04 #corewars:  * bvowk hopes its not corewars
18:06:45 #corewars: < CoreChild> Corewar is relatively stress free.
18:06:54 #corewars: < CoreChild> House sale related stress
18:07:08 #corewars: < bvowk> that is always stressful
18:07:29 #corewars:  * bvowk suggests coffee and baked goods to relax
18:08:54 #corewars: < CoreChild> Hmmm... the cafe's here don't open very late :-/
18:09:12 #corewars: < CoreChild> ' EQU
18:09:40 #corewars:  * CoreChild doesn't know why he put an apostrophe there!
18:09:49 #corewars: < bvowk> heh
18:10:08 #corewars:  * bvowk enjoys a good hot coffee and raisin scone
18:11:15 #corewars: < bvowk> so I hear you're evolving now john
18:12:04 #corewars: < CoreChild> Not yet, but I'm working on it.
18:12:16 #corewars: < bvowk> your own code?
18:12:25 #corewars: < CoreChild> I have implemented a subset of redcode in assembly.
18:12:39 #corewars: < bvowk> you hacked it up in asm?
18:12:52 #corewars: < CoreChild> Yes, very basic.
18:12:57 #corewars: < bvowk> wow
18:13:04 #corewars: < jaska> hmm, x86 asm macros for redcode?
18:13:07 #corewars: < CoreChild> Nothing impressive.
18:13:24 #corewars: < jaska> one guy i talked with suggested that 
18:13:27 #corewars: < bvowk> so you hacked up a redcode simulator in asm or you hacked up a redcode evolver and simulator in asm?
18:13:43 #corewars: < CoreChild> Asm macros would be a neat hack actually
18:13:49 #corewars: < jaska> to 'run' redcode directly
18:13:55 #corewars: < CoreChild> evolver and simulator
18:13:58 #corewars: < jaska> well, almost directly
18:14:03 #corewars: < bvowk> wow, thats impressive John
18:14:45 #corewars: < CoreChild> can input output be added to pmars using just macros?  (for a tiny programming language written in redcode)
18:14:50 #corewars: < jaska> redcode evolved directly in native assembler.. hrrm
18:15:01 #corewars: < jaska> thats what i was after
18:15:03 #corewars: < CoreChild> Not very impressive, at least not yet.
18:15:39 #corewars: < jaska> its somewhat contrived tho :)
18:15:43 #corewars:  * bvowk limits his asm excursions to microwave oven controllers and coffee pots
18:15:56 #corewars: < bvowk> and sometimes to optimize number crunching apps
18:16:08 #corewars: < bvowk> anything else is in C and/or perl
18:16:38 #corewars: < jaska> i avoid going asm these days, a lot of my code has to run on atleast x86 and ppc
18:16:47 #corewars: < jaska> and its rarely an improvement over c
18:16:51 #corewars: < CoreChild> Hi
18:17:11 #corewars:  * jaska looks confused.
18:17:18 #corewars: < bvowk> asm makes me feel manly tho :)
18:17:43 #corewars: < CoreChild> It is a perpetual core, in which a new warrior is introduced when another one perishes.
18:17:47 #corewars: < bvowk> somewhat like crafting a log cabin with an axe and elbow grease
18:18:14 #corewars: < jaska> my head started hurting when i thought of dynamic translation of redcode to x86, and permitting code self-modification :)
18:18:25 #corewars: < CoreChild> Also, any instruction which isn't executed for a while is overwritten with dat to pkeep the core tidy
18:18:42 #corewars: < bvowk> John: I was looking for that game I told you about yesterday, I don't know what its called, but it was someones research project, I found a note of it in my archives, I'll have to go back to my parents place and look up the article tho
18:19:15 #corewars: < bvowk> so how does improvement happen?
18:19:23 #corewars: < CoreChild> Thanks.  I would be interested in seeing it.
18:19:47 #corewars: < CoreChild> New warriors introduced are based on those currently in the core, mutated.
18:19:59 #corewars: < CoreChild> But I wish to improve on that.
18:20:48 #corewars: < bvowk> sounds interesting
18:20:59 #corewars: < CoreChild> New warrior should be based the the warrior which killed the one which left core, maybe
18:21:14 #corewars: < CoreChild> Unless it suicided...
18:21:20 #corewars: < jaska> bah, i still want the redcode fpga system :| :)
18:21:25 #corewars:  * bvowk does too
18:21:45 #corewars: < CoreChild> It really isn't much good yet though
18:21:58 #corewars: < jaska> food shopping & home ->
18:22:00 #corewars: < CoreChild> Sorry, I'm not too bright.  fpga = ?
18:22:10 #corewars: < jaska> field-programmable gate array
18:22:16 #corewars: < jaska> (read: programmable logic, sorts of)
18:22:19 #corewars: < CoreChild> Ah, nice :-)
18:22:46 #corewars: < jaska> and i highly doubt you belong in the 'not too bright' category.
18:22:49 #corewars: < bvowk> yes, so the redcode would happen inside a statemachine where you could run battles incredibly quickly :)
18:22:57 #corewars: < CoreChild> I was reading something about evolving circuitry.
18:23:03 #corewars: < bvowk> (and hopefully massively parallel)
18:24:11 #corewars: < jaska> mv jaska ~ (bye)
18:24:59 #corewars: < CoreChild> me waves
18:25:08 #corewars:  * CoreChild waves too
18:28:45 #corewars: < CoreChild> Wow, I seem to be having big problems with my IRC client
18:30:24 #corewars: < bvowk> hrm
19:00:01 #corewars: < CoreChild> Oh well, time to go :-/
19:00:26 #corewars: < CoreChild> Didn't find out much today
19:06:16 #corewars:  * CoreChild waves
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19:53:02 #corewars: < joonas> hi
19:55:55 #corewars: < joonas> bye
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20:05:41 #corewars: < grabek> dammit
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21:01:07 #corewars: < grabek> h
22:44:46 #corewars: < brx> airbags are funny ^^
22:48:11 #corewars: < grabek> haha
22:48:12 #corewars: < grabek> indeed
22:48:22 #corewars: < grabek> (why?)
23:10:05 #corewars: < brx> lol
23:10:09 #corewars:  * brx shrugs
23:12:34 #corewars: < grabek> http://www.alistapart.com
23:13:10 #corewars: < grabek> http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/css/edge/
23:17:13 #corewars: < brx> ?
23:17:15 #corewars: < brx> what's that
23:19:41 #corewars: < grabek> the latter shows a pure css style with text popups
23:19:46 #corewars: < grabek> (it's awesome)
23:20:15 #corewars: < grabek> the former is just a impressive set of articles about usability, php, good HTML coding, forementioned CSS and so on
23:24:20 #corewars: < grabek> bvowk: 
23:24:27 #corewars: < bvowk> oui?
23:27:19 #corewars: < grabek> oh
23:27:26 #corewars: < grabek> could please check how my page renders?
23:27:32 #corewars: < grabek> http://www.corewar.ehost.pl
23:28:06 #corewars: < bvowk> it renders into a greenish boarder with a white box
23:28:15 #corewars: < bvowk> and there is some text :)
23:28:18 #corewars: < bvowk> looks good
23:30:20 #corewars: < grabek> lol
23:30:28 #corewars: < grabek> is it readable?
23:32:33 #corewars: < brx> oh
23:32:36 #corewars: < brx> it looks lovely
23:32:53 #corewars: < bvowk> yes, nicely readable
23:33:48 #corewars: < grabek> thanks
23:34:04 #corewars: < grabek> i have a bit out-of-date computer here, at home
23:34:26 #corewars: < grabek> i noticed i tend to put fonts that are simply too large for i work on low resolution
23:47:51 #corewars: < brx> fontsize is perfect i think. heeyyyy, bookmarked ^^
23:53:15 #corewars: < grabek> http://www.csszengarden.com
23:53:27 #corewars: < grabek> switch to different styles
23:54:08 #corewars: < grabek> hm, and, hey, thanks
--- Log closed Sat Feb 14 00:00:40 2004