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04:15:51 #corewars: < bvowk_> hrm
04:15:54 #corewars: < bvowk_> nobody around :/
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10:01:02 #corewars: < will__var> hello Roy
10:01:10 #corewars: < Roy> Good morning will
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10:10:48 #corewars: < Roy> School again, bye!
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11:17:48 #corewars: < will_varf> hello joonas
11:18:07 #corewars: < joonas> hi
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11:35:01 #corewars: < joonas> hello?
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13:06:40 #corewars: < michal> hi
13:07:09 #corewars: < will_varf> hello
13:07:13 #corewars: < joonas> hi
13:10:07 #corewars: < joonas> yes, we're feeling immensely proud of ourselves, our team. :)
13:10:32 #corewars: < joonas> this being the natural state our bloated egos find themselves.
13:11:52 #corewars: < will_varf> oops joonas
13:15:13 #corewars: < joonas> what, I can't float my ego like bvowk does? :)
13:15:20 #corewars: < will_varf> lol
13:18:31 #corewars: < michal> got to go for now..
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13:20:37 #corewars: < joonas> phone
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13:59:05 #corewars: < will__var> hello Mizcu
13:59:17 #corewars: < Mizcu> hi will
14:01:05 #corewars: < Mizcu> Last night, after i had left the channel, the (d)evolution took interesting direction: -10 wilfiz, beats willow 85% of time, but useless against other warriors.
14:01:45 #corewars: < will__var> ah wow
14:02:16 #corewars: < Mizcu> thats LOSING 10 wilfiz compared to before =/
14:02:52 #corewars: < Mizcu> i'll change willow into something different..
14:04:41 #corewars: < will__var> but wait, if you can regain some effectiveness against the other warriors, you will end up winning
14:04:51 #corewars: < will__var> results fluctuate
14:04:59 #corewars: < will__var> is it still going?
14:05:13 #corewars: < Mizcu> i killed the experiment
14:05:26 #corewars: < Mizcu> losing the spl driving the stone was the last bit
14:06:52 #corewars: < Mizcu> and its stepsize falled from hunders_something to 81 to 12, while stepsize should be a lot higher for good spread
14:08:38 #corewars: < will__var> phone
14:09:22 #corewars: < will__var> oh
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14:10:01 #corewars: < Mizcu> i cant explain why it went to such direction
14:10:15 #corewars: < will_varf> me neither
14:10:26 #corewars: < will_varf> sometimes it seems to happen in reverse
14:10:35 #corewars: < will_varf> it finds something that all variations are worse
14:10:43 #corewars: < will_varf> (or all variations it tries, anyway)
14:11:25 #corewars: < will_varf> although the best warrior is always kept intact for the next round, if one of it's children out-fight it (by luck), they can supplant it and it might take a long time to chance upon the combination that gives hope again
14:11:35 #corewars: < Mizcu> could it be that the "worse" was better against the other evolved and that boosted the scores lost on benchmark
14:12:17 #corewars: < will_varf> well yes, if you have two separate populations of evolved warriors fighting each other
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14:13:05 #corewars: < Mizcu> but i didnt so not..
14:13:47 #corewars: < will_varf> a few hundred rounds is too little to get a fair score
14:13:52 #corewars: < will_varf> scores fluctuate
14:14:07 #corewars: < will_varf> a warrior might score 100 wilfiz one run and 104 the next
14:14:22 #corewars: < will_varf> and then another time, by bad luck, score 96 wilfix
14:14:22 #corewars: < will_varf> z
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15:13:50 #corewars: < michal> hi :)
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15:24:37 #corewars: < michal> everyone's leaving..
15:25:06 #corewars:  * will_varf isn't
15:25:07 #corewars: < will_varf> how are things?
15:27:37 #corewars: < michal> hm. may day cycle has shifted 12 hours and now I'm trying to get things normal
15:28:41 #corewars: < michal> specifically, just trying to stay awake for few more hours
15:28:53 #corewars: < Mizcu> i just got my cycle back to normal
15:29:58 #corewars: < Mizcu> hope have now enough energy to go on with school
15:30:11 #corewars: < Mizcu> (hope i have)
15:31:41 #corewars: < michal> school, who needs it?
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15:33:14 #corewars: < Roy> Hello
15:33:21 #corewars: < michal> hi
15:34:41 #corewars: < Roy> That was a coincidence :) I just send a paper, and fizmo send one to the nop hill exacly the same time :)
15:36:15 #corewars: < michal> papers, stone papers, imp papers, anti imp papers.. can't you all think of anything else? :)
15:36:53 #corewars: < Roy> Nope...there is a scanner on the hill too :P but its 20th...
15:37:30 #corewars: < Roy> I only want to have one kind of warrior on the hill at the time, so now I'm killing Red Conq.
15:37:49 #corewars: < Roy> And Ironic Imps is a stone/imp :)
15:38:00 #corewars: < Roy> So I have about everything on the hill...
15:38:49 #corewars: < Roy> one paper,one stone/imp,one imppaper, one stone/paper, and a scanner :)
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15:44:53 #corewars: < Roy> and then he went silent again...
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16:51:58 #corewars: < bvowk> hrm
16:52:17 #corewars: < Mizcu> bvowkkie
16:52:26 #corewars: < bvowk> um. yes?
16:52:31 #corewars: < bvowk> (bvowkkie?)
16:52:48 #corewars: < Mizcu> "hi"
16:52:58 #corewars: < bvowk> how's it going?
16:53:13 #corewars: < Mizcu> there-there
16:54:06 #corewars: < jaska> heh
16:54:18 #corewars: < jaska> atleast nots bwookiee
16:54:31 #corewars:  * bvowk signs into law the "change the music act of 2004", and now goes to find new tunage
17:01:28 #corewars:  * bvowk returns
17:03:06 #corewars: < bvowk> you even realized you've had the same music on shuffle for a week and you suddenly *REALLY* dislike it and must change it?
17:03:19 #corewars: < bvowk> s/even/ever (even)
17:09:38 #corewars: < jaska> ive had the same music on shuffle for the last .. hmm.. 8 years
17:09:40 #corewars: < jaska> or so
17:09:46 #corewars: < jaska> not quite 8
17:09:54 #corewars: < jaska> the collection has just been growing tho
17:10:01 #corewars: < bvowk> I have to shuffle mine around
17:10:13 #corewars:  * bvowk has to have music to suit his mood
17:10:25 #corewars: < bvowk> I've got an easy 350 CD's
17:10:43 #corewars: < jaska> i used to have hmm 2-4 cds
17:10:45 #corewars: < jaska> they all got stolen
17:10:59 #corewars: < bvowk> (/me misses the dot-com days)
17:13:56 #corewars:  * bvowk wonders how jaska can have 2-4 cd's on shuffle for 8 years
17:15:41 #corewars: < Mizcu> I dont have either more than .. err..  4-5 cd's.  Though it'll take 5 more if i burn my mp3's.
17:16:36 #corewars: < jaska> bvowk, mp3
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17:17:27 #corewars: < Neogryzor> hello
17:17:27 #corewars: < Mizcu> hi Neo
17:17:32 #corewars: < bvowk> .es?
17:17:34 #corewars: < Neogryzor> hi Mizcu
17:17:51 #corewars: < Neogryzor> hi bvowk
17:17:59 #corewars: < bvowk> greets neao
17:17:59 #corewars: < bvowk> neo even
17:19:16 #corewars: < Neogryzor> hrm.. pushed my own warrior off the hill
17:29:58 #corewars: < Neogryzor> my mails to SAL are bounced :(
17:30:29 #corewars: < bvowk> eh?
17:30:56 #corewars: < bvowk> got a bounce message?
17:32:28 #corewars: < Neogryzor> yep, "mail delivery <something>"...
17:32:57 #corewars: < bvowk> that doesn't help me troubleshoot that :)
17:33:20 #corewars: < Roy> Full Mime headers and message helps more :)
17:34:51 #corewars: < Neogryzor> there goes:
17:35:03 #corewars: < Neogryzor> This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.
17:35:03 #corewars: < Neogryzor> A message that you sent could not be delivered to all of its recipients.
17:35:03 #corewars: < Neogryzor> The following address(es) failed:
17:35:03 #corewars: < Neogryzor> koth@corewar.info
17:35:03 #corewars: < Neogryzor> SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO::
17:35:05 #corewars: < Neogryzor> host mx.freenet.de [194.97.50.136]: 550 E-Mail blocked, see http://spam.freenet.de
17:35:06 #corewars: < Neogryzor> ------ This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. ------
17:35:08 #corewars: < Neogryzor> Return-path: 
17:35:10 #corewars: < Neogryzor> Received: from [172.30.8.15] (helo=web01)
17:35:12 #corewars: < Neogryzor> by relay.mixmail.com with smtp id 1AqxDN-0002Yp-00
17:35:14 #corewars: < Neogryzor> for koth@corewar.info; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 17:27:53 +0100
17:35:16 #corewars: < Neogryzor> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 17:27:53 +0100
17:35:18 #corewars: < Neogryzor> From: "German # #" 
17:35:20 #corewars: < Neogryzor> Reply-To: neogryzormail@mixmail.com
17:35:22 #corewars: < Neogryzor> To: "koth@corewar.info" 
17:35:24 #corewars: < Neogryzor> Subject: 
17:35:26 #corewars: < Neogryzor> Xmailer: Mixmail Server 3.0
17:35:28 #corewars: < Neogryzor> X-Priority: 3
17:35:30 #corewars: < Neogryzor> MIME-Version: 1.0
17:35:32 #corewars: < Neogryzor> Content-type: text/plain
17:35:35 #corewars: < Neogryzor> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
17:35:36 #corewars: < Neogryzor> Message-Id: 
17:35:39 #corewars: < Neogryzor> ;redcode-tiny
17:35:40 #corewars: < Neogryzor> ;name T-Frez
17:35:43 #corewars: < Neogryzor> ;author G.Labarga
17:35:44 #corewars: < Neogryzor> ;assert CORESIZE=3D=3D800
17:35:46 #corewars: < Neogryzor> ;strategy Tiny multi-shot scanner
17:35:48 #corewars: < Neogryzor> d1 equ 70+10
17:35:50 #corewars: < Neogryzor> d2 equ d1+5
17:35:52 #corewars: < Neogryzor> ptr equ loop-1
17:35:54 #corewars: < Neogryzor> loop: add.f inc,scan
17:35:56 #corewars: < Neogryzor> scan: sne.i d1,d2
17:35:58 #corewars: < Neogryzor> djn.f loop,{-115
17:36:01 #corewars: < Neogryzor> mov.ab scan,ptr
17:36:02 #corewars: < Neogryzor> spl loop,-40
17:36:05 #corewars: < Neogryzor> clr: mov *dbm,>ptr
17:36:06 #corewars: < Neogryzor> mov *dbm,>ptr
17:36:09 #corewars: < Neogryzor> djn.f clr,<-3
17:36:10 #corewars: < Neogryzor> dbm: dat 1,11
17:36:13 #corewars: < Neogryzor> sbm: spl #10,10
17:36:14 #corewars: < Neogryzor> inc: spl #70,70
17:36:16 #corewars: < Roy> ok, stop, now you show us your warrior :)
17:36:17 #corewars: < Neogryzor> for 3
17:36:19 #corewars: < Neogryzor> dat 0,0
17:36:21 #corewars: < Neogryzor> rof
17:36:23 #corewars: < Neogryzor> i for 6
17:36:24 #corewars: < Neogryzor> spl #20+i,<50
17:36:26 #corewars: < Neogryzor> rof
17:36:28 #corewars: < Neogryzor> end scan
17:37:00 #corewars: < Roy> You are spam...
17:37:04 #corewars: < Roy> (thats what it says)
17:38:29 #corewars: < Neogryzor> uh sorry.
17:39:58 #corewars: < Roy> For some reason they think you are sending spam...could be a lot of reasons for that :(
17:40:06 #corewars: < Roy> 1. You are on a spam-list they check
17:40:27 #corewars: < Roy> 2. You're "German # #" name is suspicuos
17:40:46 #corewars: < Roy> 3. Maybe because you have an empty subject...?
17:41:07 #corewars: < Roy> 4. Mixmail.com is blocked...
17:41:23 #corewars: < Roy> Could be anything...hard to tell by looking :(
17:42:56 #corewars: < jaska> 18:34 <Neogryzor> Message-Id: 
17:42:57 #corewars: < jaska> hmm?
17:43:34 #corewars: < Roy> Thats weird too yes :)
17:43:46 #corewars: < Neogryzor> well, my mail to SAL are bounced sometimes, but not always. Maybe it is "random annoy" routine
17:44:27 #corewars: < Neogryzor> yep, no subject, like always
17:48:18 #corewars: < Neogryzor> tried again and failed
17:48:19 #corewars: < Roy> Well, your message is found by mx.freenet.de....that isn't Fizmo's provider, not mixmail.com....its just a hub in between I think, so sometimes it takes a different route and makes it to SAL, the other time it encounters freenet.de and it bounces (??? could I be right?)
17:49:53 #corewars: < Roy> Although the IP from freenet is the same as fizmo's provider: 194.97.*.*
17:50:09 #corewars: < Neogryzor> hmm, you could
17:51:56 #corewars: < Roy> ah no, lifemedien.de (fizmo's provider) uses freenet.de....
17:52:20 #corewars: < bvowk> try sending directly to sal.math.ualberta.ca
17:55:36 #corewars: < Roy> gotta go, cheers`
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17:56:46 #corewars: < Neogryzor> bye
17:56:59 #corewars: < Neogryzor> bvowk: Yes, it works. Thanks
18:14:08 #corewars: < bvowk> no 213T for at least a week :(
18:14:10 #corewars:  * bvowk cries
18:50:47 #corewars: < bvowk> http://www.samsung.ca/cgi-bin/nasecabc/en/b2c/product/product_detail.jsp?LoginFlag=NO&prod_id=NB21BSAS&prod_path=%2fConsumer+Products%2fComputers+%26+Related+Products%2fMonitor%2fLCD+-+Digital&selTab=Specifications
19:18:25 #corewars: < Neogryzor> time to go, cheers
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20:49:16 #corewars: < Mizcu> HAHAHAHA
20:49:36 #corewars: < Mizcu>  seq.i  $  -10 , $ 1524
20:49:37 #corewars: < Mizcu>  jmp.b  $  -49 , }    0
20:49:37 #corewars: < Mizcu>  seq.i  $ -946 , $  929
20:49:37 #corewars: < Mizcu>  jmp.b  $   30 , } -444
20:49:37 #corewars: < Mizcu>  seq.i  $-3669 , $-2464
20:49:37 #corewars: < Mizcu>  jmp.b  $    0 , {   24
20:49:39 #corewars: < Mizcu>  seq.i  $   -2 , $  -80
20:49:41 #corewars: < Mizcu>  jmp.b  $   -3 , } 2650
20:50:59 #corewars: < Mizcu> evolver trying to do a quickscan
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23:06:48 #corewars: < brx> hello
23:06:53 #corewars: < brx> only on for a few secs
23:08:36 #corewars: < Mizcu> few secs this time of day..
23:10:08 #corewars: < brx> finally i have written a first mega crappy warrior which doesn't lose all the time ^^
23:13:22 #corewars: < Mizcu> does it actually do anything other than stay alive?
23:15:13 #corewars: < brx> hmmm
23:15:16 #corewars: < brx> it's a paper i think
23:15:24 #corewars: < brx> at least it copies itself around and bombs the core
23:15:42 #corewars: < brx> but no, it doesn't kill ^^
23:16:55 #corewars: < Mizcu> hopper or a paper?
23:17:06 #corewars: < Mizcu> (hopper = single copy, paper = multiple copies)
23:17:20 #corewars: < brx> paper
23:19:55 #corewars: < brx> it's too large.. doesn't do much besides copying.. i am not satisfied
23:20:10 #corewars: < Mizcu> how many lines?
23:20:12 #corewars: < brx> hum 10
23:23:39 #corewars: < Mizcu> next step would be to implement multi-process copying
23:23:50 #corewars: < brx> silk?
23:24:36 #corewars: < Mizcu> silk or relative
23:25:51 #corewars: < brx> well i think i can do that..
23:26:03 #corewars: < brx> i have problems when it comes to offensive strategies.
23:27:52 #corewars: < Mizcu> mov #6, #0
23:27:53 #corewars: < Mizcu> mov <-1, <1
23:27:57 #corewars: < Mizcu> spl @0, -3365
23:27:58 #corewars: < Mizcu> mov 2, <somewhere
23:28:02 #corewars: < Mizcu> jmz -4, -4
23:28:03 #corewars: < Mizcu> dat <2667, <2667*2
23:30:33 #corewars: < Mizcu> ('94 warrior #11, ryooki-article. Run with 6 parallel processes. Add something to change copy-step after each copy.)
23:31:28 #corewars: < brx> hum thank you.
23:33:07 #corewars: < brx> anyway, the few seconds have passed. good night
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