--- Log opened Tue Feb 10 00:00:54 2004 00:18:14 #corewars: * bvowk wonders 00:18:21 #corewars: * bvowk rattles joonas 00:28:23 #corewars: * bvowk violently rattles joonas 00:43:15 #corewars: < joonas> oauh 00:49:13 #corewars: < bvowk> hey, you are still alive :) 00:49:22 #corewars: < joonas> yeah 00:49:23 #corewars: * bvowk is headed home now 00:49:31 #corewars: < bvowk> (sorry to rattle an drun) 00:49:33 #corewars: < joonas> locales're killing me tho 00:49:43 #corewars: < joonas> right. have a nice run! 00:49:45 #corewars: < joonas> :) 00:53:59 -!- michal [~michal@host-ip2-246.crowley.pl] has quit [Leaving] 00:59:57 -!- joonas [jpihlaja@kruuna.helsinki.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 180 seconds] 02:00:50 -!- joonas [jpihlaja@kruuna.helsinki.fi] has joined #corewars 02:00:57 -!- joonas [jpihlaja@kruuna.helsinki.fi] has quit [ircII2.8.2-EPIC3.004+Kasi --- Bloatware at its finest.] 02:41:58 -!- bowk_ [~bvowk@h24-67-137-90.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #corewars 02:42:07 -!- bowk_ is now known as bvowk_ 02:42:09 #corewars: < bvowk_> hrm 03:09:06 -!- bvowk_ [~bvowk@h24-67-137-90.ed.shawcable.net] has quit [using sirc version 2.211+ssfe] 06:01:05 -!- Philb [~Owner@h-68-164-14-165.CHCGILGM.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #corewars 06:08:24 #corewars: < Philb> Yes Zaurus corewar. Yes Hoffman's corewar - we encourage all corewar here. 06:08:44 #corewars: < Philb> But I'm being threatened by a Mumak and now Bvowk to give advice? 06:09:21 #corewars: < Philb> Who has read access to warriors on the new hill - 1/2 the community? 06:10:51 #corewars: < Philb> What's this 'Toxic Club'? Hmm. seems no-ones around. 06:11:33 #corewars: < Philb> The SAL hills [LP] don't show-up correctly in Mozilla Firebird. I mean Mozilla Firefox. 06:11:48 #corewars: < Philb> Nice job though. Ok back to my Mumak. 06:12:09 #corewars: * Philb waves 06:12:17 -!- Philb [~Owner@h-68-164-14-165.CHCGILGM.dynamic.covad.net] has quit [Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/] 07:54:09 -!- willvarfa [~Will@arken-16-57-70.ip-pluggen.com] has joined #corewars 08:29:20 -!- will_varf [~Will@arken-16-57-50.ip-pluggen.com] has joined #corewars 08:31:52 -!- willvarfa [~Will@arken-16-57-70.ip-pluggen.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 180 seconds] 09:00:27 -!- willvarfa [~Will@arken-16-57-26.ip-pluggen.com] has joined #corewars 09:03:24 -!- will_varf [~Will@arken-16-57-50.ip-pluggen.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 180 seconds] 09:31:29 -!- will_varf [~Will@arken-16-57-62.ip-pluggen.com] has joined #corewars 09:33:56 -!- willvarfa [~Will@arken-16-57-26.ip-pluggen.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 180 seconds] 10:00:22 -!- will_varf [~Will@arken-16-57-62.ip-pluggen.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 180 seconds] 10:01:29 -!- willvarfa [~Will@arken-16-57-41.ip-pluggen.com] has joined #corewars 10:06:36 -!- bvowk [~bvowk@h24-67-137-90.ed.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 10:34:16 -!- will_varf [~Will@arken-16-57-29.ip-pluggen.com] has joined #corewars 10:37:00 -!- willvarfa [~Will@arken-16-57-41.ip-pluggen.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 180 seconds] 10:49:50 -!- will_varf [~Will@arken-16-57-29.ip-pluggen.com] has quit [Lämnar] 10:50:02 -!- willvarfa [~will@arken-16-57-29.ip-pluggen.com] has joined #corewars 10:54:30 -!- willvarfa [~will@arken-16-57-29.ip-pluggen.com] has quit [Client Exiting] 10:56:02 -!- willvarfa [~will@arken-16-57-29.ip-pluggen.com] has joined #corewars 11:03:55 -!- willvarfa [~will@arken-16-57-29.ip-pluggen.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 11:05:32 -!- willvarfa [~will@arken-16-57-31.ip-pluggen.com] has joined #corewars 11:28:32 -!- willvarfa [~will@arken-16-57-31.ip-pluggen.com] has quit [Client Exiting] 11:50:44 -!- willvarfa [~will@arken-16-57-76.ip-pluggen.com] has joined #corewars 12:02:08 -!- will_varf [~will@arken-16-57-105.ip-pluggen.com] has joined #corewars 12:04:27 -!- willvarfa [~will@arken-16-57-76.ip-pluggen.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 180 seconds] 12:33:18 -!- will__var [~will@arken-16-57-59.ip-pluggen.com] has joined #corewars 12:36:29 -!- will_varf [~will@arken-16-57-105.ip-pluggen.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 180 seconds] 13:04:28 -!- will_varf [~will@arken-16-57-75.ip-pluggen.com] has joined #corewars 13:05:30 -!- will_varf [~will@arken-16-57-75.ip-pluggen.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 13:07:27 -!- will__var [~will@arken-16-57-59.ip-pluggen.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 180 seconds] 13:53:34 -!- Mizcu [Mizcu@dsl-hkigw4m4a.dial.inet.fi] has joined #corewars 14:24:30 -!- willvarfa [~Will@arken-16-57-38.ip-pluggen.com] has joined #corewars 14:24:37 #corewars: < willvarfa> hello 14:25:08 #corewars: < Mizcu> hi 14:28:36 #corewars: < willvarfa> have you tried the newer Species? 14:30:16 #corewars: < Mizcu> Older has been running now for 6 hours straight, trying to improve previous results. 14:32:01 #corewars: < Mizcu> so far only new stepsize 14:32:09 #corewars: < willvarfa> how is the wilfiz score? 14:32:36 #corewars: < Mizcu> 71 14:32:51 #corewars: < Mizcu> (i've had 75 yesterday, hmm..) 14:32:51 #corewars: < willvarfa> hmm ouch 14:33:05 #corewars: < willvarfa> some times the kindest thing to do is put the batch down 14:34:02 #corewars: < Mizcu> ah, it was a bad individual 14:34:09 #corewars: < Mizcu> few generations upwards and got 80 14:35:16 #corewars: < willvarfa> yeah, it fluctates 14:35:18 #corewars: < Mizcu> after removing the trash after main loop: 87 14:35:25 #corewars: < willvarfa> when you have just a few rounds, you tend to exaggerate errors 14:35:33 #corewars: < willvarfa> very promising 14:35:37 #corewars: < willvarfa> how long is it? 14:35:44 #corewars: < Mizcu> 3+17 14:36:06 #corewars: < willvarfa> and what is it's number? 14:36:17 #corewars: < Mizcu> 24119 14:37:02 #corewars: < willvarfa> well in perspective I've had runs as long where they've got over 130 wilfiz 14:37:38 -!- will_varf [~Will@arken-16-57-35.ip-pluggen.com] has joined #corewars 14:37:44 #corewars: < will_varf> so luck plays a really big part in all this 14:38:45 #corewars: < Mizcu> i think i'll change the mutation rating into bit higher 14:39:28 #corewars: < will_varf> to do that on the fly, stop species.exe, edit species.dat, run species.exe again 14:40:28 #corewars: < Mizcu> does mutation_none 15 mean 85 percent chance to mutate? 14:40:31 -!- willvarfa [~Will@arken-16-57-38.ip-pluggen.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 180 seconds] 14:40:43 #corewars: < will_varf> nope 14:41:06 #corewars: < will_varf> the prob of any mutation is it's number / sum of all probs 14:41:14 #corewars: < will_varf> make sense? 14:42:03 #corewars: < Mizcu> 15/ (4*.3 = 1.2 +2+2 = 5.2) = 33% 14:42:47 #corewars: < will_varf> + the 15 too 14:43:30 #corewars: < will_varf> 15 / (15 + .3 + .3 + .3 + .3 + 1.2 + 2 + 2) = ? 14:43:45 #corewars: < Mizcu> 15/20.2 = .74 14:44:10 #corewars: < will_varf> right, so a 74% chance that you'll not mutate the instruction 14:44:33 #corewars: < will_varf> (each instruction, that is; so in the warrior, expect 26% of the instructions to have been mutated in some way) 14:44:46 #corewars: < will_varf> basically, the bigger the number the more the chance 14:45:00 #corewars: < will_varf> you can prevent something by setting the prob to zero, obviously 14:45:53 #corewars: < will_varf> (I wanted to avoid working in percents in the file so you didn't have to make sure it always added up to 100) 14:46:41 #corewars: < will_varf> bbs 14:46:44 -!- will_varf [~Will@arken-16-57-35.ip-pluggen.com] has quit [Lämnar] 14:49:21 -!- willvarfa [~Will@arken-16-57-35.ip-pluggen.com] has joined #corewars 14:51:32 #corewars: < willvarfa> my current bunch isn't doing well either, might be time to try again 14:59:46 #corewars: < Mizcu> i'll run the current bunch for ~16 minutes and then change to the newer species and new batch 15:00:13 #corewars: < willvarfa> you'll need to provide runtest_dummy.rc for the newer version of species 15:00:45 #corewars: < Mizcu> yes, i remember 15:01:15 #corewars: < willvarfa> that little piece of code will be used to test that each warrior has at least some fangs 15:01:32 #corewars: < willvarfa> the more difficult that warrior is, the longer it will take to generate warriors and to breed them 15:02:20 #corewars: < willvarfa> also, each warrior gets a chance to defeat that warrior; even if the warrior has a high chance of winning, it might not win that one go it gets 15:04:19 #corewars: < Mizcu> I will be using somewhat simple program that beats simple coreclears ~90% of time but cannot really beat anything else. Any other tactic, like evo'ish movmovmovmovmov, stone or replicator should be able to get through 15:05:57 #corewars: < Mizcu> (and maybe i'll switch to tiny-settings) 15:07:59 #corewars: < willvarfa> the default test is to stop djn trains 15:09:20 -!- will_varf [~Will@arken-16-57-112.ip-pluggen.com] has joined #corewars 15:11:33 -!- willvarfa [~Will@arken-16-57-35.ip-pluggen.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 180 seconds] 15:14:39 #corewars: < will_varf> what was your test going to be? 15:15:55 #corewars: < Mizcu> clear-killer 15:16:05 #corewars: < will_varf> what does that look like? 15:19:01 #corewars: < Mizcu> http://groups.google.com/groups?q=clp+group:rec.games.corewar&hl=fi&lr=&ie=UTF-8&group=rec.games.corewar&selm=Pine.OSF.4.03.9811232213510.28670-100000%40vesuri.Helsinki.FI&rnum=1 15:19:10 #corewars: < Mizcu> see the clp at bottom of the post 15:19:36 #corewars: < Mizcu> didnt have mini-clp at my disposal at the moment so i used that 15:22:48 #corewars: < will_varf> right 15:23:01 #corewars: < will_varf> good idea 15:23:07 #corewars: < will_varf> is clp particularly anti-clear? 15:23:18 #corewars: < Mizcu> clp was a program meant for killing oneshots 15:23:26 #corewars: < will_varf> how does it work? 15:23:52 #corewars: < Mizcu> it creates two "fences" above and belowe itself, it either of the fences i damaged, it boots itself away 15:24:04 #corewars: < Mizcu> it also coreclears constantly 15:25:06 #corewars: < Mizcu> original clp was quite big, and used vampiric coreclear -> brainwashing pit, smaller version use common dat-clear 15:26:18 #corewars: < Mizcu> (if either of the fences is damaged) 15:28:01 #corewars: < Mizcu> "species has generated errors and will be closed by windows" CSpeciesError warrior_0: expected 15:29:53 #corewars: < Mizcu> my mistake 15:32:27 #corewars: < will_varf> ah, a slight change in the format of the ini file 15:33:00 #corewars: < will_varf> for non-evolving species, you need to prefix them with warrior_ (as you might also have lists of chromosomes) 15:35:56 #corewars: < Mizcu> got it to work 15:37:29 #corewars: < Mizcu> and the first program to evolve out of it.. mov.i 0, 1 15:37:41 #corewars: < will_varf> lol 15:37:54 #corewars: < will_varf> so clp doesn't protect against imps nor djn-trains? 15:38:21 #corewars: < Mizcu> it should against both 15:38:57 #corewars: < Mizcu> and yes it does 15:39:11 #corewars: < will_varf> so how did mov.i 0, 1 pass? 15:39:48 #corewars: < Mizcu> 24 16 10 in a clp vs. imp -match 15:40:10 -!- willvarfa [~Will@arken-16-57-7.ip-pluggen.com] has joined #corewars 15:40:19 #corewars: < Mizcu> that certain clp has problems against 1c-streams 15:41:13 #corewars: < Mizcu> but that didnt matter during making of it, since oneshots have <0.66c -clears 15:42:52 -!- will_varf [~Will@arken-16-57-112.ip-pluggen.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 180 seconds] 15:43:09 #corewars: < willvarfa> ah 15:44:15 #corewars: < Mizcu> changing boot-distance to negative imp didnt get a single win anymore 15:56:56 #corewars: < Mizcu> ergh, best current program (number 98) is a djn-train 15:57:39 #corewars: < willvarfa> ouch 15:59:25 #corewars: < Mizcu> but it scores almost the the best score of a program that was 15:59:36 #corewars: < willvarfa> Mizcu, have you looked at Fizzle? 15:59:37 #corewars: < Mizcu> almost the half score of a 15:59:38 #corewars: < Mizcu> START spl.b $ 0 , > -1 15:59:40 #corewars: < Mizcu> spl.b $ -1 , >-3096 15:59:40 #corewars: < Mizcu> spl.b $ 0 , > 0 15:59:40 #corewars: < Mizcu> slt.x } -16 , } 1612 15:59:40 #corewars: < Mizcu> jmn.f } 33 , # 1 15:59:40 #corewars: < Mizcu> mod.b } 29 , { 0 15:59:46 #corewars: < Mizcu> will: nope 16:00:11 #corewars: < willvarfa> well Mizcu I think you're the only Species user, so I'll be careful not to show you better frameworks ;-) 16:01:21 #corewars: < willvarfa> http://www.nc5.infi.net/~wtnewton/corewar/evol/index.html#fizzle 16:02:57 #corewars: < willvarfa> bbs 16:03:00 -!- willvarfa [~Will@arken-16-57-7.ip-pluggen.com] has quit [Lämnar] 16:06:08 -!- willvarfa [~Will@arken-16-57-55.ip-pluggen.com] has joined #corewars 16:09:27 #corewars: < Mizcu> thee more generations and still djn 16:09:31 #corewars: < Mizcu> three 16:10:05 #corewars: < willvarfa> that is unlucky 16:10:15 #corewars: < willvarfa> so runtest_dummy isn't hot at stopping djn trains? 16:10:29 #corewars: < Mizcu> and it takes +30 seconds more time to run a generation 16:10:47 #corewars: < willvarfa> how many rounds/sec are you doing? 16:10:56 #corewars: < Mizcu> 413r/s 16:11:13 #corewars: < Mizcu> somewhere between 300-400 16:11:36 #corewars: < Mizcu> i could achieve 800-900 with previous configuration 16:11:45 #corewars: < Mizcu> -> scrap the experiment 16:11:49 #corewars: < willvarfa> you're lucky, I'm pulling 250r/s on my p4 2.4ghz 16:12:53 #corewars: < Mizcu> evolving 30 warriors at a time 16:13:25 #corewars: < willvarfa> that is the number I've always used 16:13:51 #corewars: < willvarfa> a feature for Species 2.0: 2d populations 16:15:48 #corewars: < Mizcu> new run started 16:17:29 #corewars: < Mizcu> (with previous settings) 16:34:50 -!- will_varf [~Will@arken-16-57-41.ip-pluggen.com] has joined #corewars 16:37:40 -!- willvarfa [~Will@arken-16-57-55.ip-pluggen.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 180 seconds] 16:42:43 #corewars: < Mizcu> current evolution is a spl 0, mov x, bbs 16:49:02 -!- will_varf [~Will@arken-16-57-41.ip-pluggen.com] has quit [Lämnar] 16:51:28 -!- willvarfa [~Will@arken-16-57-41.ip-pluggen.com] has joined #corewars 17:01:58 !irc.koth.org *** Looking up your hostname... 17:01:58 !irc.koth.org *** Checking Ident 17:01:59 !irc.koth.org *** No Ident response 17:02:00 !irc.koth.org *** Found your hostname 17:02:01 !irc.koth.org *** Your host is irc.koth.org[216.231.108.170/6667], running version 2.8/hybrid-6.3.1 17:02:01 -!- Mode change [+i] for user jk_log 17:02:01 -!- jk_log [~jakub@134.gymko.ba.gtsi.sk] has joined #corewars 17:06:09 -!- will_varf [~Will@arken-16-57-31.ip-pluggen.com] has joined #corewars 17:08:35 -!- willvarfa [~Will@arken-16-57-41.ip-pluggen.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 180 seconds] 17:10:39 -!- CoreChild [~d432ba35@brparcunix.cidadeinternet.com.br] has joined #corewars 17:10:45 #corewars: < Mizcu> CC 17:11:19 #corewars: < CoreChild> Hi Mizcu, all. 17:13:04 #corewars: < will_varf> hello John 17:19:00 #corewars: < CoreChild> Hi Will. Sorry, I was so busy reading something I forgot I was here. 17:21:00 #corewars: < CoreChild> Spam to mail ratio today - 31:1 17:21:15 #corewars: < Mizcu> currently running 500 r/s.. changed from tinyclp to miniclp and first warrior to appear: mov/jmp-clear =( 17:22:28 #corewars: < CoreChild> tinyclp is Christian's? miniclp Joonas's? 17:23:15 #corewars: < CoreChild> I assume you are including CLP in your benchmark for your evolver to reduce the chance of it generating clears? 17:23:30 #corewars: < Mizcu> tiny found on joonas's post, mini sent by janeck at RF #4 17:23:42 #corewars: < Mizcu> yes 17:23:42 #corewars: < CoreChild> You could try "just a little curious" which is my 9-line CLP 17:24:30 #corewars: < CoreChild> Oh, I will have to take a look at Janeczek's code 17:29:04 #corewars: * will_varf borrowed Mikaels code too 17:29:23 #corewars: < will_varf> bbs 17:29:25 -!- will_varf [~Will@arken-16-57-31.ip-pluggen.com] has quit [Lämnar] 17:30:02 #corewars: * CoreChild waves 17:31:00 -!- willvarfa [~Will@arken-16-57-23.ip-pluggen.com] has joined #corewars 17:31:12 #corewars: * willvarfa *yawns* 17:31:15 #corewars: < willvarfa> been a long day 17:31:22 #corewars: < willvarfa> you at an internet cafe, John? 17:31:50 #corewars: < CoreChild> No, at the library :-/ 17:33:35 #corewars: < willvarfa> so it ain't a 'cafe' in the conventional sense? no coffee and biscuits to be had? 17:34:00 #corewars: < CoreChild> What is Michal's mini-clp like, does it do anything unusual? How many lines? 17:34:14 #corewars: < Mizcu> http://www.corewar.info/tournament/round6/miniclp.txt 17:39:26 #corewars: < CoreChild> Hmmm... gotta go. 17:39:26 #corewars: < CoreChild> Back later 17:39:26 #corewars: * willvarfa *waves* 17:39:26 #corewars: < willvarfa> got to go myself 17:39:26 #corewars: < CoreChild> Ah, thanks, 8 lines. 17:39:26 -!- willvarfa [~Will@arken-16-57-23.ip-pluggen.com] has quit [Lämnar] 17:39:26 #corewars: < CoreChild> Nice, will read it later 17:39:26 #corewars: < CoreChild> No, no coffee :-( 17:39:26 #corewars: * CoreChild waves 17:39:26 -!- Neogryzor [Neogryzor@pc5219.unirioja.es] has joined #corewars 17:39:26 #corewars: < Neogryzor> hi people 17:39:28 !irc.koth.org *** Looking up your hostname... 17:39:29 !irc.koth.org *** Checking Ident 17:39:29 !irc.koth.org *** Found your hostname 17:39:29 !irc.koth.org *** No Ident response 17:39:29 !irc.koth.org *** Your host is irc.koth.org[216.231.108.170/6667], running version 2.8/hybrid-6.3.1 17:39:29 -!- Mode change [+i] for user jk_log 17:39:30 -!- jk_log [~jakub@134.gymko.ba.gtsi.sk] has joined #corewars 17:39:38 #corewars: < Neogryzor> hi Mizcu 17:39:44 #corewars: < Neogryzor> whats up? 17:40:05 #corewars: < Mizcu> not much, bit slow going with coding 17:41:06 #corewars: < Neogryzor> me too. Not redcoding last weeks, but optimizing a bit 17:44:15 -!- CoreChild [~d432ba35@brparcunix.cidadeinternet.com.br] has quit [WebChat -> www.vIRCio.org (EOF)] 17:48:38 #corewars: < Neogryzor> (testing now) 17:55:30 #corewars: < Mizcu> another stone has evolved 17:59:34 #corewars: < Neogryzor> evolving? 18:03:15 #corewars: < Mizcu> Now changed to use a file-sharing software that doesnt use much processor time and i can do some evo-experiments at the same time 18:16:29 !irc.koth.org *** Looking up your hostname... 18:16:29 !irc.koth.org *** Checking Ident 18:16:30 !irc.koth.org *** No Ident response 18:16:30 !irc.koth.org *** Found your hostname 18:16:30 !irc.koth.org *** Your host is irc.koth.org[216.231.108.170/6667], running version 2.8/hybrid-6.3.1 18:16:30 -!- Mode change [+i] for user jk_log 18:16:30 -!- jk_log [~jakub@134.gymko.ba.gtsi.sk] has joined #corewars 18:16:48 #corewars: < Neogryzor> not much. out of cw last weeks. Just testing and optimizing actually. 18:17:01 #corewars: < Neogryzor> how is evolving? 18:18:34 #corewars: < bvowk> its going ok... 18:19:05 #corewars: < bvowk> slowly right now :) 18:19:16 #corewars: < bvowk> you? got anything new and exciting? 18:19:35 #corewars: < Mizcu> ORG START 18:19:35 #corewars: < Mizcu> add.ab # 46 , @ 2 18:19:35 #corewars: < Mizcu> START spl.b $ -1 , < 0 18:19:35 #corewars: < Mizcu> mov.i $ -32 , < -1 18:19:35 #corewars: < Mizcu> dat.ba $ 0 , $ 0 18:21:49 #corewars: < Neogryzor> heh, nothing, unless you consider work exciting... 18:22:14 #corewars: < Neogryzor> lot of exciting work to do 18:27:38 #corewars: < bvowk> heh 18:27:49 #corewars: < bvowk> what do you do that is so exciting? :) 18:30:24 #corewars: < Neogryzor> i have to do an industrial proyect to become an engineer. i don't consider it very exciting 18:30:49 #corewars: < bvowk> I see 18:31:03 #corewars: < bvowk> what variety of engineer are you set to become? 18:32:53 #corewars: < Neogryzor> electronic, (electronics?) 18:36:36 #corewars: < bvowk> spiffy 18:36:57 #corewars: * bvowk would be a computer engineer if he registered with the engineering society 18:37:18 #corewars: < Neogryzor> what is spiffy? 18:37:34 #corewars: < Neogryzor> "just do it" :) 18:38:08 #corewars: < bvowk> being an engineer is spiffy 18:38:39 #corewars: < bvowk> I'd have to pay dues then, and I don't actually get any extra pay for being an engineer here soo. 18:39:18 #corewars: < Neogryzor> i mean, what is "spiffy"? 18:39:55 #corewars: < bvowk> oh :) 18:40:25 #corewars: < bvowk> spiffy is vaguely like saying "cool" or "interesting" 18:40:45 #corewars: < bvowk> at least thats how its used around here.. it might mean something completely different and very rude across the pond :) 18:42:43 #corewars: < Neogryzor> time to go for me 18:43:06 #corewars: < Neogryzor> cya bvowk, Mizcu, loggers 18:43:19 #corewars: < bvowk> cya 18:43:22 -!- Neogryzor [Neogryzor@pc5219.unirioja.es] has quit [] 18:48:16 -!- CoreChild [~d99e89c2@brparcunix.cidadeinternet.com.br] has joined #corewars 18:48:25 #corewars: < bvowk> Hey john 18:50:41 #corewars: < CoreChild> Hi 18:50:50 #corewars: < bvowk> How's it going? 18:51:52 #corewars: < CoreChild> Okay. Just online to reaseach some cw stuff for my web page 18:52:56 #corewars: < CoreChild> I need a new host still. Going to pay for one I think 18:55:11 #corewars: < bvowk> host for pages? 19:01:38 #corewars: < CoreChild> It would be nice to have a copy of cgiirc somewhere which points only at irc.koth.org 19:03:00 #corewars: < CoreChild> Yes. I want to buy a domain name and rent space on a host. 19:07:10 #corewars: < CoreChild> I see Neo has been writing a tiny CLP 19:16:17 #corewars: * bvowk grumbles about switch madness 19:17:06 -!- willvarfa [~Will@arken-16-57-111.ip-pluggen.com] has joined #corewars 19:18:33 #corewars: < willvarfa> howdy folks, quite a crowd tonight :-) 19:18:50 #corewars: < bvowk> whatcha up to wil? 19:19:13 #corewars: < CoreChild> Hi Will 19:19:44 #corewars: < Mizcu> will: funny, newest stone given from evolving scores 79 wilfiz - but does not have jmp for looping: add, spl -1, mov, dat. 19:19:44 #corewars: < CoreChild> IRC is a bit slow from where I am, so you will have to forgive me if I'm a bit slow replying 19:20:30 #corewars: < CoreChild> my evolver doesn't seem to produce much 19:21:58 #corewars: * willvarfa is beginning to appreciate that 99% of evolving is understanding the parameters 19:22:08 #corewars: < willvarfa> wow Mizcu, that seems promising 19:22:18 #corewars: < willvarfa> you are on your way to higher wilfiz scores :-) 19:22:52 #corewars: < Mizcu> add.ab # 46 , @ 2 19:22:53 #corewars: < Mizcu> START spl.i $ -1 , < 810 19:22:53 #corewars: < Mizcu> mov.i @ -821 , < -1 19:22:53 #corewars: < Mizcu> mov.i $ -23 , < 27 19:22:53 #corewars: < Mizcu> dat.ab $-2481 , $ 0 19:23:58 #corewars: < willvarfa> did that come from the batch you started while I was online earlier, Mizcu? 19:24:12 #corewars: < Mizcu> yes 19:24:23 #corewars: < Mizcu> ah, no 19:24:57 #corewars: < willvarfa> what is your runtest_dummy at the moment? 19:25:02 #corewars: < Mizcu> none 19:25:14 #corewars: < willvarfa> none? you went back to the old version? 19:25:35 #corewars: < Mizcu> old version, but uses better (?) Clp on benchmarking 19:26:07 #corewars: < willvarfa> the old version has a djn-train-resistant nop-warrior hardcoded into it as a runtest_dummy 19:26:09 #corewars: < Mizcu> slightly higher mutation rating 19:26:27 #corewars: < willvarfa> yeap, putting your anti-clear into the benchmark seems a good idea 19:32:49 #corewars: < Mizcu> will, do you have markov's for tiny hill? 19:33:14 #corewars: * bvowk tests some new evolver code 19:34:42 #corewars: < Mizcu> hmm.. did i just see a djn.x -2, -16 there.. 19:35:27 #corewars: < willvarfa> hmm, nope, but you can build it 19:35:59 #corewars: < Mizcu> nope, it was -2, -13 =( :) 19:36:51 #corewars: < Mizcu> 80.222 wilfiz, but doesnt seem to dominate current soup =( 19:37:29 #corewars: < willvarfa> Mizcu, to gather markovs for the tiny hill you need to download the warriors and precompile them into .rc files 19:39:06 #corewars: < willvarfa> and then use the "build_freq_tables" command to build the appropriate tables you want (markovs, operands etc) 19:40:41 #corewars: < willvarfa> ah wait, Mizcu, I _do_ happen to have the tiny lookup tables prepared :-D 19:40:44 #corewars: < willvarfa> email address? 19:41:00 #corewars: < Mizcu> at mbnet fi 19:41:24 #corewars: < bvowk> heh.. tiny lockup files :) 19:44:03 #corewars: < willvarfa> bvowk, hoho 19:44:10 #corewars: < willvarfa> Mizcu, let me know that you get them ok 19:44:26 #corewars: < Mizcu> will: arrived 19:45:18 -!- will_varf [~Will@arken-16-57-83.ip-pluggen.com] has joined #corewars 19:45:49 #corewars: < will_varf> cool 19:46:12 #corewars: < will_varf> bvowk, how goes things? 19:46:43 #corewars: < Mizcu> also, thanks to metcalf i now have bunch of warriors that i can use as benchmark and see what species developes at tiny enviroment 19:48:17 -!- willvarfa [~Will@arken-16-57-111.ip-pluggen.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 180 seconds] 19:50:42 #corewars: < will_varf> Mizcu, I do recommend using the newer Species.exe I sent you, even if you have a simple djn-train-resistant runtest_dummy 19:53:05 #corewars: < CoreChild> Time to get going... 19:53:11 #corewars: * CoreChild *waves* 19:54:02 #corewars: * will_varf waves 19:54:32 -!- CoreChild [~d99e89c2@brparcunix.cidadeinternet.com.br] has quit [WebChat -> www.vIRCio.org ] 20:05:06 #corewars: < Mizcu> whee, 1st generation, warrior 12 is already a barely working stone -_- 20:09:48 #corewars: < will_varf> yeap, tiny is great for fast results 20:09:59 #corewars: < Mizcu> i am not running tiny 20:10:47 #corewars: < Mizcu> either i am having a lucky day or the clp is doing a good work 20:11:51 #corewars: < will_varf> wow! 20:11:59 #corewars: < will_varf> are you using a benchmark too? 20:12:32 #corewars: < Mizcu> yes 20:12:46 #corewars: < will_varf> then you should be getting lots of .red files generated each round, right? 20:13:13 #corewars: < Mizcu> so far 8 .dat-files and 4 .red generated 20:13:38 #corewars: < will_varf> hmm, what are the .reds called? 20:13:54 #corewars: < Mizcu> tests--xx.red 20:13:59 #corewars: < will_varf> ah great 20:14:20 #corewars: < will_varf> well you can grep *.red for the score line, and then redirect that to a file 20:14:36 #corewars: < will_varf> then you can open that file in a text editor and do a bit of find/replace massaging to make it into a cvs file 20:14:53 #corewars: < will_varf> which you can import into a spreadsheet and generate pretty graphs from 20:15:20 #corewars: < will_varf> the number in the filename part of the grep output is basically a chronology 20:15:26 #corewars: < will_varf> so you get score vs time 20:15:35 #corewars: < will_varf> just like on the species website example graph 20:26:20 -!- willvarfa [~Will@arken-16-57-13.ip-pluggen.com] has joined #corewars 20:29:14 -!- will_varf [~Will@arken-16-57-83.ip-pluggen.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 180 seconds] 20:29:39 -!- michal [~michal@host-ip2-246.crowley.pl] has joined #corewars 20:29:45 #corewars: < michal> hi 20:30:07 #corewars: < Mizcu> ih 20:55:35 #corewars: * willvarfa *waves* 20:55:38 -!- willvarfa [~Will@arken-16-57-13.ip-pluggen.com] has quit [Lämnar] 21:00:04 -!- michal [~michal@host-ip2-246.crowley.pl] has quit [Leaving] 22:04:10 -!- michal [~michal@host-ip2-246.crowley.pl] has joined #corewars 22:07:13 #corewars: < grabek> hurrumph 22:45:22 -!- Mizcu [Mizcu@dsl-hkigw4m4a.dial.inet.fi] has quit [] --- Log closed Wed Feb 11 00:00:08 2004