--- Log opened Fri Feb 06 16:10:26 2004
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17:30:02 #corewars: < grabek> hm
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17:30:27 #corewars:  * brx bows
17:31:18 #corewars:  * grabek ducks
17:34:35 #corewars: < brx> hello ^^ i'm new to corewars and currently looking for a redcode syntax script for vim :)
17:35:56 #corewars: < grabek> lol
17:35:58 #corewars: < grabek> no such thing :-)
17:36:13 #corewars: < grabek> Though there's syntax file for jedit iirc
17:36:58 #corewars: < brx> mhh
17:37:18 -!- Mizcu [Mizcu@dsl-hkigw4m4a.dial.inet.fi] has joined #corewars
17:37:19 #corewars: < brx> well okay, thought so, will write one myself then
17:37:26 #corewars: < grabek> wow
17:37:34 #corewars: < grabek> It'd be cool to see it
17:37:41 #corewars: < brx> uhm? why
17:37:48 #corewars: < brx> i mean sure..
17:37:50 #corewars: < grabek> you're one of toolsmiths then :-)
17:38:07 #corewars: < brx> ^^
17:38:55 #corewars: < grabek> well
17:38:57 #corewars: < brx> well actually it's quite simple ^^
17:39:15 #corewars: < brx> all about regular expressions really..
17:39:19 #corewars:  * grabek wonders there's so many newbies around here recently
17:39:36 #corewars: < brx> really? ^^ i stumbled upon corewars by chance actually
17:40:20 #corewars: < Mizcu> Have no idea why, since none of the new ones seem to be result of my haunting on cwsf-b
17:40:24 #corewars: < brx> searching for interesting projects on sourceforge i found hoffmann's gtk corewar program
17:40:27 #corewars: < grabek> wow
17:40:37 #corewars: < brx> and so i began to investigate
17:40:43 #corewars: < grabek> actually we do not discuss hoffmann's corewar here
17:40:48 #corewars: < brx> i know ^^
17:41:03 #corewars: < brx> i use pmars atm
17:41:49 #corewars: < grabek> upsie, my gf is here
17:41:51 #corewars: < grabek> bbl
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18:07:37 #corewars: < Fizmo> hi
18:10:57 #corewars: < Fizmo> just for some few seconds online
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19:25:44 #corewars: < CoreChild> Hi all...
19:26:56 #corewars: < Mizcu> hi
19:27:26 #corewars: < CoreChild> Greetings Mizcu.  Any progress on the warriors?
19:28:16 #corewars: < Mizcu> found yet-another stepsize for a stone, bit of p-spacer development
19:28:58 #corewars: < CoreChild> Are you bruteforcing to get you step?
19:29:29 #corewars: < CoreChild> you EQU your
19:29:30 #corewars: < Mizcu> nope, randopunch(tm) and sorting mod8000
19:30:31 #corewars: < CoreChild> randopunch?  Does that simulate the bombing pattern, or generate steps to be tested in pMars? (or a combination)
19:31:13 #corewars: < Mizcu> randopuch = punch your keyboard and test the numbers appeared
19:31:20 #corewars: < Mizcu> puch equ punch
19:32:34 #corewars: < CoreChild> Aha :-)  Testing against a benchmark I presume?
19:32:42 #corewars: < Mizcu> Static's stepsize was found by sorting mod8000 and doing one-by-one test on each number on a range
19:33:37 #corewars: < Mizcu> no, i just use graphical mode to roughly see the pattern, and do re-check on debugger
19:33:37 #corewars: < CoreChild> I write a small program when I want to find scan / stone steps.
19:33:58 #corewars: < Mizcu> after i have a step/hop, i will benchmark the stone
19:34:17 #corewars: < CoreChild> To find a step which doesn't hit the scan / stone itstep for a while
19:34:38 #corewars: < CoreChild> Are you using mod-1 steps?
19:34:47 #corewars: < Mizcu> yes
19:35:19 #corewars: < bvowk> hrm
19:36:09 #corewars: < CoreChild> I use a small program which goes through every step.
19:36:38 #corewars: < CoreChild> starting with the location I want the stone to bomb, e.g. location 2
19:37:19 #corewars: < CoreChild> I continuously add step (mod CORESIZE) until I reach a location smaller than my warrior size.
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19:37:50 #corewars: < Fizmo> hi
19:37:53 #corewars: < CoreChild> I get a time value from the number of times I add step.
19:37:53 #corewars: < CoreChild> 2 or 3 line program.
19:38:36 #corewars: < CoreChild> Then I test half-a-dozen of those where time is high
19:38:36 #corewars: < CoreChild> Hi Bvowk
19:39:26 #corewars: < bvowk> how's it going john?
19:39:30 #corewars: < bvowk> and fiz :)
19:39:43 #corewars: < Fizmo> hi :)
19:39:52 #corewars:  * bvowk has been surprisingly busy
19:40:01 #corewars: < Fizmo> I am fine
19:42:46 #corewars:  * Fizmo is remembering that he'd sent someone an article :)
19:43:03 #corewars: < CoreChild> Hi Christian
19:44:13 #corewars: < CoreChild> Guten Abend
19:44:45 #corewars: < Fizmo> Guten Abend :)
19:44:50 #corewars: < Mizcu> going to sauna ->
19:45:48 #corewars: < CoreChild> Ich Lernen Deutsch fur treffen
19:46:15 #corewars: < Fizmo> wow
19:46:30 #corewars: < CoreChild> (and I only had to look up one word!)
19:46:37 #corewars: < Fizmo> is my english such bad? :)
19:47:35 #corewars:  * Fizmo is really looking forward to meet you all
19:47:54 #corewars: < CoreChild> Going well, thanks
19:47:54 #corewars:  * CoreChild wants a new comp
19:49:02 #corewars: < CoreChild> Ah, but I have to know how to order a drink.
19:49:08 #corewars:  * CoreChild must get a passport though.
19:50:37 #corewars: < Fizmo> We should first answer the where and when
19:51:06 #corewars: < Fizmo> Not that expected feedback on r.g.c.
19:52:09 #corewars:  * CoreChild doesn't mind, as long as he manages to get his passport in time
19:52:14 #corewars: < Fizmo> :)
19:52:50 #corewars: < Fizmo> I got comments by e-mail from Anton Marsden and Chip Wendell
19:53:56 #corewars: < CoreChild> Ah, good.  Found a copy of yakoth.
19:54:06 #corewars: < CoreChild> Right, nearly time to go :-(
19:54:09 #corewars: < CoreChild> Positive comments?
19:54:28 #corewars: < brx> oh btw (okay i am new, yet..) when and where in germany is this meeting going to be held
19:55:12 #corewars: < Fizmo> Berlin
19:55:15 #corewars: < Fizmo> maybe
19:55:26 #corewars: < Fizmo> the when isn't clear so far
19:55:37 #corewars:  * brx nods
19:55:43 #corewars: < CoreChild> Hi Brx.
19:55:50 #corewars: < brx> hi ^^
19:55:57 #corewars: < Fizmo> I think I'll set up a date an wait for the response
19:56:09 #corewars: < CoreChild> Time to be going then... :-(
19:56:13 #corewars:  * CoreChild waves
19:56:16 #corewars: < brx> bye CoreChild 
19:56:18 #corewars:  * Fizmo waves
19:56:32 #corewars: < CoreChild> Going to play with my new tiny warrior at home now!
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19:56:49 #corewars: < brx> mmmh
19:57:10 #corewars: < Fizmo> you're new to corewar?
19:57:11 #corewars: < brx> and i am going to write an ebuild for the pmars port
19:57:15 #corewars: < brx> yes
19:57:38 #corewars: < Fizmo> nice to see new player
19:57:47 #corewars: < brx> quite new, been lurking in r.g.c for a while now and read some information
19:58:01 #corewars:  * brx smiles
19:58:13 #corewars: < brx> well it sounded interesting so i am going to give it a try
19:58:17 #corewars: < Fizmo> ahh, I guess you already found my cw website ;-)
19:58:51 #corewars: < brx> aaah it's corewar.info ^^ yes, i've been there :)
19:59:44 #corewars: < Fizmo> :->
20:00:07 #corewars: < brx> before diving into redcode i feel like having to write a vim syntax script though ^^
20:00:18 #corewars: < brx> i was surprised not to find any
20:00:42 #corewars: < Fizmo> vim syntax?
20:01:53 #corewars: < brx> aah vim is a cross platform programmer's editor
20:02:31 #corewars: < brx> vim stands for vi improved.. and vi was a unix text editor iirc
20:04:37 #corewars: < Fizmo> hrmm, I am not so skilled with unix :-/
20:05:15 #corewars:  * Fizmo isn't a real programmer
20:06:05 #corewars:  * Fizmo can programm only in redcode
20:07:07 #corewars: < brx> oh well, you are not interested in programming in other languages, i guess?
20:08:54 #corewars: < Fizmo> Interested, yes but not enough time
20:10:26 #corewars:  * brx nods
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20:14:40 #corewars: < michal> hey
20:14:55 #corewars: < michal> I was just browsing the logs and decided to come here for a while..
20:15:05 #corewars: < Mizcu> michal - its been a while
20:15:31 #corewars: < Fizmo> Hi Michal
20:15:34 #corewars: < michal> mhm
20:15:48 #corewars: < michal> I was busy doing.. nothing? :)
20:16:53 #corewars: < brx> hi
20:17:03 #corewars: < michal> so, whats new?
20:17:09 #corewars: < michal> except the new face :)
20:17:14 #corewars: < brx> :)
20:18:08 #corewars: < Fizmo> well, not that much I guess
20:18:34 #corewars: < Fizmo> On Sunday at 9:30 pm is irc tournament :)
20:19:19 #corewars: < michal> gmt?
20:21:30 #corewars: < Fizmo> erhmm, 30 minutes later than usual
20:22:09 #corewars: < Fizmo> is it CET then?
20:22:48 #corewars: < michal> I think so
20:28:26 #corewars: < Fizmo> I saw that you killed some of your warriors on SAL
20:30:55 #corewars: < michal> I didn't like them very much
20:31:05 #corewars: < michal> just made some space for the new ones
20:31:58 #corewars: < Fizmo> new one from you? ;-)
20:32:23 #corewars: < michal> maybe :)
20:33:23 #corewars: < Fizmo> fbomber is still koth on the LP hill
20:34:58 #corewars: < michal> that reminds me - I was going to publish it
20:35:12 #corewars: < michal> I might just post it right now..
20:35:24 #corewars: < Fizmo> cool :-)
20:35:54 #corewars: < Fizmo> ohh, well, I think I have also some further LP warriors I could publish
20:41:29 #corewars: < michal> so, brx, you are a gentoo zeal^Wuser?
20:42:02 #corewars:  * brx wakes up
20:42:47 #corewars: < brx> how do you know
20:43:38 #corewars: < michal> you mentioned making ebuild for something
20:43:50 #corewars: < michal> [saw that in the #corewar log]
20:44:26 #corewars: < brx> ah 
20:45:22 #corewars: < brx> corewar log you say.. is it logged to a website, are you a clone or are you running the server? ^^
20:45:46 #corewars: < Fizmo> logged to a website
20:45:56 #corewars: < brx> ^^
20:46:33 #corewars: < brx> michal: yes, gentoo user, i guess i will make an ebuild for either the sf pmars project or the sdl port
20:46:40 #corewars: < brx> michal: inofficially that is..
20:47:31 #corewars: < michal> I'd go for sdl version
20:47:54 #corewars: < michal> it's basically the same, with added sdl support
20:48:29 #corewars: < brx> yes
20:48:42 #corewars: < brx> i noticed when i compared the releases
20:49:19 #corewars: < michal> actually, I use gentoo, too
20:49:29 #corewars: < michal> I just love that days long compiles
20:49:41 #corewars: < michal> but after that, everything runs faster :)
20:50:16 #corewars: < brx> lol yes, it's lovely, whenever i have to reinstall it i'd like to kick myself in the ass for not making binary packages of xfree and the like
20:55:32 #corewars: < brx> michal: hmmm but how often is each of the projects updated
20:57:20 #corewars: < michal> I don't know, I try not to upgrade, whenever possible :)
20:57:51 #corewars: < Fizmo> ok, I have to go now
20:57:52 #corewars: < brx> :)
20:57:58 #corewars:  * Fizmo waves
20:57:58 #corewars: < brx> bye Fizmo 
20:58:00 #corewars: < michal> bye
20:58:04 #corewars: < brx> talk to you again for sure ^^
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20:58:12 #corewars: < brx> ah another german
20:58:49 #corewars: < michal> who's the other one?
20:58:58 #corewars: < brx> fizmo ^^
21:05:33 #corewars: < bvowk> me wonders
21:05:38 #corewars:  * bvowk wonders about his /
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21:10:44 #corewars: < michal> stupid bitchx
21:10:48 #corewars: < michal> or more like stupid me
21:10:53 #corewars: < brx> no love for irssi? ^^
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21:29:39 #corewars: < grabek> hi
21:29:47 #corewars: < brx> hi
21:29:54 #corewars: < grabek> oh you're still here
21:29:59 #corewars: < grabek> good
21:31:17 #corewars: < brx> sure i am ^^
21:31:24 #corewars: < brx> i am ggoing to be here 24/7
21:31:40 #corewars: < grabek> good
21:31:53 #corewars: < grabek> you'll be the one who talks to Steve, then
21:32:55 #corewars: < brx> talks to steve?
21:33:21 #corewars: < grabek> Steve is from Australia
21:33:46 #corewars: < grabek> There's a huge time gap between him and rest of us (save Phil, in this case)
21:33:56 #corewars:  * grabek is off to prepare few sandiwches
21:34:36 #corewars: < brx> ah, well the timegap will be a problem for me too.. yet on weekends i guess it is possible ^^
21:36:48 #corewars: < grabek> where are you from?
21:36:52 #corewars: < grabek> Germany?
21:37:00 #corewars: < brx> yes
21:37:58 #corewars: < grabek> Europe
21:38:02 #corewars: < grabek> :-)
21:38:21 #corewars: < grabek> we're having a corewar meeting/camp somewhen during summer
21:39:20 #corewars: < brx> yes read that on r.g.c
21:39:55 #corewars: < grabek> is berlin far from the place you live in?
21:40:28 #corewars: < brx> yes, i live in mainz, that's near frankfurt, sw of germany
21:42:14 #corewars: < grabek> I'll never learn these things
21:42:48 #corewars: < brx> hum which things? ^^
21:43:49 #corewars: < grabek> geography
21:43:53 #corewars: < grabek> *sigh*
21:44:02 #corewars: < brx> do you know where berlin is? ^^
21:44:04 #corewars: < grabek> what do you think about searchable warrior archive?
21:44:06 #corewars: < grabek> berlin?
21:44:08 #corewars: < grabek> so-so
21:44:28 #corewars: < grabek> not so far from here, i suppose
21:44:55 #corewars: < brx> searchable warrior archive? i am new, yet i suppose it would ne interesting if that archive had sorting abilities.. like for the warrior types etc
21:45:17 #corewars: < grabek> yeah, that is what i am thinking of
21:45:28 #corewars: < grabek> (however, there's such a thing, it's called Planar's)
21:45:40 #corewars: < grabek> phone
21:57:03 #corewars: < grabek> the link is on koth.org site
21:58:43 #corewars: < brx> so you were not planning to create such an archive? ^^
21:59:11 #corewars: < grabek> i am
21:59:17 #corewars: < grabek> planar's site is not dynamic
21:59:46 #corewars: < brx> hmm so what exactly will be different
22:00:53 #corewars: < grabek> imagine
22:01:04 #corewars: < grabek> search: imp stone metcalf
22:01:12 #corewars: < grabek> would list all stone/imps made by metcalf
22:02:24 #corewars: < brx> ah a search engine
22:03:22 #corewars: < grabek> yeah
22:03:48 #corewars: < grabek> http://www.risearch.org
22:06:24 #corewars: < brx> is it free?
22:06:37 #corewars: < grabek> yes
22:06:44 #corewars: < grabek> gpl licence
22:48:31 #corewars: < grabek> ok, it works
23:03:02 #corewars: < brx> ^^
23:09:31 #corewars:  * grabek thinks
23:09:42 #corewars: < grabek> it is not that useful to have all warriors indexed
23:09:51 #corewars: < grabek> I'd rather separeate them in different classes
23:10:05 #corewars: < grabek> or rather not...
23:10:27 #corewars: < grabek> Planar's is great, when it comes to search for a particular warrior
23:11:02 #corewars: < grabek> it is, however, impossible to search through warriors' code
23:11:50 #corewars: < grabek> not to mention a "stone" given a search strin would result in displaying many warriors one is not interested in
23:12:08 #corewars:  * grabek starts to wonder what he really needs a search engine for
23:22:33 #corewars: < michal> eh. need some sleep..
23:22:34 #corewars: < michal> bye
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