--- Log opened Sun Jan 18 00:00:53 2004
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07:03:33 #corewars: < wowie> hi
07:04:15 #corewars: < wowie> anyone on
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10:43:54 #corewars: < grabun> well?
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11:16:14 #corewars: < grabun> argh
11:16:15 #corewars:  * grabun gtg
11:18:12 #corewars: < willvarfa> gtg?
11:18:17 #corewars: < willvarfa> nice email, btw
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13:06:23 #corewars:  * Roy wakes up
13:06:48 #corewars: < willvarfa> hello Roy
13:07:02 #corewars: < willvarfa> going to cream us all tonight at the tourn again?
13:07:21 #corewars: < Roy> Probebly not....maybe if I find some time
13:07:42 #corewars: < Roy> But then I might decide to organise this round
13:08:11 #corewars: < willvarfa> didn't Jeff also have an idea last week?
13:08:24 #corewars: < Roy> Did he?...dunno
13:08:37 #corewars: < willvarfa> fiz leaves off his page the only time I won a round (two weeks back) sob sob
13:09:26 #corewars: < Roy> hehe, do you still have a log? then you could just send it to him
13:13:56 #corewars: < willvarfa> I don't have a log, unfortunately
13:14:03 #corewars: < willvarfa> soon even I will doubt that I won ;-)
13:14:42 #corewars: < Roy> Doesn't Jakub has a log of it?
13:15:32 #corewars: < willvarfa> oh it ain't that much of a problem really
13:15:39 #corewars: < willvarfa> it was a dclear, so what was the point?
13:16:08 #corewars: < Roy> hehe, the idea of submitting a d-clear... :)
13:16:33 #corewars: < willvarfa> there are very few warriors I actually understand; dclear and oos are umoung those
13:16:54 #corewars: < willvarfa> so my idea wasn't original; I've done much the same (without success) in numerous other IRCTs.. ;-)
13:17:17 #corewars: < Roy>  1     Blatantly Unoriginal    Will 'Varfar'            67  31   2   2852  
13:17:26 #corewars: < willvarfa> ah, that was it :-D
13:17:53 #corewars:  * willvarfa hopes that there will be another Mini-Challenge soon too
13:19:08 #corewars: < Roy> Nah, I'm not good in Mini-challenges, then I have to be original :(
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13:27:23 #corewars: < will_varf> well I have to go do some chores for a while
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13:27:31 #corewars: < will_varf> hope I see you this afternoon or tonight
13:27:34 #corewars:  * will_varf waves
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13:27:37 #corewars:  * Roy waves
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15:14:27 #corewars: < will_varf> hello Mizcu
15:15:18 #corewars: < Mizcu> hi will
15:20:11 #corewars: < Mizcu> when running my bruteforcer with a certain paper - on my Dad's computer it takes 80-90 seconds / tested steps. On my comp it takes ~30 seconds. I ran the optimizer yesterday at my dad's comp for almost 8 hours straight. And at last i see that best steps are ~10% before my preferred limit..
15:20:58 #corewars: < Mizcu> ..not to mention the "best" numbers were generated during the first hour of optimizing and are ~20% behind the theoretical maximum
15:21:30 #corewars: < Mizcu> now i just copied 5 minutes ago the forcer back to this computer and within first 5 optimizations i get better scores..
15:21:45 #corewars: < Mizcu> AUUUUGH
15:28:14 #corewars: < will_varf> wow
15:28:22 #corewars: < will_varf> "combination of factors, really"
15:28:27 #corewars: < will_varf> (Notting Hill quote)
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15:32:22 #corewars: < Mizcu> (i am currently trying to upgrade certain older paper, preferred limit = better than the old one, theoretical limit = reepicheep's paper)
15:36:18 -!- You're now known as jakub
15:36:32 #corewars: < jakub> hello
15:36:52 #corewars: < Mizcu> hi j
15:37:30 #corewars: < jakub> hi m :)
15:37:58 #corewars: < jakub> wanna listen to guitar madness?
15:38:16 #corewars: < jakub> go to http://www.gjh.sk/~0kozisek and download 06...mp3
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15:39:21 #corewars: < jakub> I'm listening to that album and doing some  coding 
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15:56:41 #corewars: < willvarfa> so Mizcu, is the optimisation search or is there some kind of genetic algorithm in there?
15:57:03 #corewars: < Mizcu> (D)umb (B)rute (F)orce
15:57:12 #corewars: < Mizcu> =DBF
15:58:04 #corewars: < Mizcu> nothing fancy in it
15:58:43 #corewars: < willvarfa> ah, a respectable technique
15:59:04 #corewars: < willvarfa> Species, currently in CVS, can 'evolve' just a section of a warrior (e.g. the constants)
15:59:24 #corewars: < willvarfa> not quite primetime ready, though
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16:08:25 #corewars: < jakub> hi Will
16:13:34 #corewars: < Mizcu> hehee, another improvement
16:15:08 #corewars: < will_varf> hello jakub
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18:25:41 #corewars: < jakub> heh, my first mail to rgc in last 2 weeks arrived :)
18:29:19 #corewars: < Mizcu> what settings would we use on a newbie-round?
18:30:58 #corewars: < Mizcu> Coresize 8000 is probably the one most known, but as it is also most known then the fights might not be as even & exiting to the noobs
18:33:28 #corewars: < jakub> I think tiny setting are good
18:33:37 #corewars: < jakub> they are know too and are not so boring :)
18:34:36 #corewars: < jakub> and after IRCT, we can answer question
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18:36:09 #corewars:  * jakub still don't have good cw enviroment set up in windows
18:36:29 #corewars: < jakub> for me, cw is linked with linux ;-p
18:36:42 #corewars: < jakub> will: do you have Wins by hand?
18:37:34 #corewars: < jakub> will: to check Hunter
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18:52:47 #corewars: < willvarfa> back
18:53:29 #corewars: < willvarfa> jakub, I do; where is it?
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19:10:54 #corewars: < jakub> willwarfa: do you want sourcecode too?
19:12:07 #corewars: < jakub> if not, download this: http://www.gjh.sk/~0kozisek/progs/Hunter.zip
19:12:22 #corewars: < jakub> and if yes, I will send you everything
19:13:02 #corewars: < Mizcu> ADOM maths:  2 dark elven sorceresses + 1 High Elf Fighter = 2  d_e_s corpses + 100 (!) Giant Spiders corpses..
19:13:39 #corewars: < Mizcu> nethack never taught things like that to me -_-
19:15:44 #corewars: < will_varf> neat jakub!
19:15:53 #corewars: < will_varf> when I select a piece, however, I have to move it?
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19:18:02 #corewars: < Roy> hello
19:18:10 #corewars: < Mizcu> hi Roy
19:21:36 #corewars: < jakub> hi Roy
19:22:03 #corewars: < Roy> Hi Miz, jakub
19:22:09 #corewars: < jakub> will: no, you can unselect the piece by clicking on it
19:22:21 #corewars: < jakub> I wrote documentation too, but its in slovak :-/
19:22:41 #corewars: < jakub> Roy: look at www.gjh.sk/~0kozisek and download that 06....mp3
19:22:49 #corewars: < jakub> its by Chris Impelitteri
19:23:39 #corewars:  * Roy giggles (you said "Imp")
19:23:55 #corewars: < Roy> Are you sure you are going to let me hear music again?
19:24:40 #corewars: < jakub> :)
19:24:57 #corewars: < jakub> yes, I don't care what you say about THIS song :)
19:25:22 #corewars: < jakub> download it and play it to your father :-p
19:26:25 #corewars: < jakub> I gave a nickname to this song, its "crazy shit" :)
19:26:26 #corewars: < Roy> 95%...
19:26:31 #corewars: < jakub> cool
19:27:19 #corewars:  * Roy tries to find the speed button, its stuck @ maximum velocity :O
19:27:55 #corewars: < jakub> hehe :)
19:27:56 #corewars: < jakub> thats the point
19:28:11 #corewars: < jakub> thats killer song, very very very hard to learn
19:28:20 #corewars: < Roy> Duh :)
19:28:22 #corewars: < jakub> wanna tabs? :)
19:28:35 #corewars:  * Roy finds Fur Elize hard to learn...
19:29:05 #corewars: < jakub> good thing is, that there are not those nasty barre chord like F or B :)
19:29:26 #corewars: < jakub> so its not problem, theoretically :)
19:30:13 #corewars:  * jakub is looking forward to Fizmo's join ... Fimzo likes guitar music
19:30:30 #corewars: < Roy> I like piano music :(
19:30:56 #corewars: < jakub> thats very good ... piano music is quite hard to play on guitar, so its building your technique
19:31:04 #corewars: < Roy> And the new Muse album! and Radiohead....
19:31:30 #corewars: < Roy> Uhm...I just play it on a piano (the way its supposed to be)
19:31:32 #corewars: < will_varf> hopefully I'll be back in a while
19:31:35 #corewars:  * will_varf *waves*
19:31:45 #corewars:  * Roy waves back
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19:35:02 #corewars: < jakub> Roy: :)
19:35:12 #corewars: < jakub> Roy: play it on guitar
19:35:39 #corewars: < jakub> do you have RealPlayer?
19:36:47 #corewars: < Roy> Uhm yes, why?
19:36:53 #corewars: < Mizcu> Realmeadia, RealPlayer,   Ewwwww..
19:36:59 #corewars: < Roy> I can't play guitar :(
19:37:37 #corewars: < jakub> http://www.chopsfromhell.com/guest_broderick2.html
19:38:16 #corewars: < jakub> scroll down and download the video (TV is pointing at it)
19:38:27 #corewars: < jakub> now, that is crazy thing
19:38:49 #corewars: < jakub> I can't play it even 100x slow
19:38:52 #corewars: < Roy> 44%...
19:39:20 #corewars:  * jakub want to look at Roy's face in few seconds :)
19:40:08 #corewars: < Roy> THAT is really cool :) I like that! thats woo!
19:40:18 #corewars: < jakub> yes, it is
19:40:45 #corewars: < jakub> Broderick is a guitarist playing speedmetal :)
19:41:01 #corewars: < jakub> you can see, that not all metal dudes are fanatics :-p
19:41:19 #corewars: < Roy> LOL, my dad thinks its fake :)
19:41:37 #corewars: < jakub> Roy: check whole chopsfromhell, there are cool things there
19:41:48 #corewars: < Roy> No, you are right, not all metal dudes are dumb :)
19:41:49 #corewars: < jakub> Roy's dad: nope, its not fake
19:42:29 #corewars: < jakub> Roy's dad: he is very well known guitar virtuoso in metal world
19:42:34 #corewars: < jakub> :)
19:43:06 #corewars: < Roy> But uhm, is that unreal or quake in the background?? :)
19:43:32 #corewars: < jakub> I was learning it year ago, but I quited after a month :)
19:43:53 #corewars: < jakub> Roy: don't know ... don't want to download it again :)
19:45:47 #corewars: < jakub> http://www.rustycooley.com/video.html
19:45:59 #corewars: < jakub> download Under The Influence and Revolution Live
19:46:16 #corewars: < jakub> this man is the fastest monster I've ever seen
19:46:44 #corewars: < jakub> I was talking with him too, he is really very down-to-earth and nice guy
19:48:18 #corewars: < jakub> hehe, he has 8 string guitar too
19:49:35 #corewars: < Roy> 8-string....thats stupid :) he doesn't have more then 5 fingers :P
19:49:59 #corewars: < jakub> Roy: tou are funny boy :)
19:50:09 #corewars: < jakub> he is not playing chords
19:50:35 #corewars: < jakub> with 8 strings, you have a lot more notes (more octaves) under your fingers
19:50:40 #corewars: < Roy> I like the video of the Darkness, there 2 guys play one double guitar
19:50:54 #corewars: < jakub> and you can play thing, that are unplayable on 6string
19:51:20 #corewars: < jakub> I have video of Michael Angelo, he is playing two guitar at same time
19:51:31 #corewars: < jakub> guitars
19:51:47 #corewars: < Roy> No, they have one guitar that has two uhm...<insert name>'s :)
19:52:08 #corewars: < jakub> fretboards?
19:52:37 #corewars: < Roy> I dunno what they are called...
19:52:45 #corewars: < jakub> but Angelo has two guitars
19:52:46 #corewars: < Mizcu> necks?
19:52:52 #corewars: < jakub> yep
19:53:27 #corewars: < jakub> fretboard is the upper part of the nect containing the frets :)
19:53:37 #corewars: < jakub> necks
19:53:42 #corewars: < jakub> neck
19:53:56 #corewars:  * jakub is boosting my log size :)
19:54:18 #corewars:  * jakub is boosting his logsize :)
19:54:57 #corewars:  * Mizcu just got an idea
19:55:35 #corewars: < Roy> What kind of idea..?
19:55:51 #corewars: < Mizcu> you will see soon
19:55:55 #corewars: < Mizcu> (non-redcode)
19:56:38 #corewars: < Roy> Jakub: http://tinyurl.com/2ftxa
19:58:15 #corewars: < jakub> nice one
19:58:39 #corewars: < Mizcu> i already used my redcode-ideas for this week when upgrading paper two days ago
19:59:31 #corewars: < jakub> http://www.angelo.com/
19:59:59 #corewars: < jakub> I have Speed Kills instructional video by him
20:00:40 #corewars: < Roy> Upgrading papers is my only speciality :)
20:04:30 #corewars: < jakub> OUR only speciality :)
20:05:12 #corewars: < Roy> Joining the group eh? :)
20:06:06 #corewars: < jakub> look at my koth warriors (RIP), what types were they? :)
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20:07:04 #corewars: < Roy> I actualy have three types on the hill now, I need a scanner!
20:07:41 #corewars: < jakub> I don't have anything there now, but I'm in The Hall Of Dame!!!
20:07:48 #corewars: < jakub> Fame :)
20:07:52 #corewars: < jakub> wow
20:09:36 #corewars: < Roy> I'm currently out of scanner ideas :(
20:15:13 #corewars: < jakub> Im currently out of any ideas :((
20:16:06 #corewars: < Roy> Just upgrade a paper :)
20:16:16 #corewars: < Roy> Devilstick is an upgraded paper...
20:16:30 #corewars: < jakub> :)
20:18:03 #corewars: < Roy> I took Jedimp, so uhm, just take another paper that is around 100/200 on koenigstuhl and try to improve it (copy/paste a Q4.5 helps a lot)
20:22:10 #corewars: < jakub> thats not too creative for me
20:22:39 #corewars: < Roy> Well, I added a whole paper to it, and improved Jedimp, thats a big challenge you know ;)
20:22:48 #corewars: < jakub> :)
20:23:04 #corewars:  * jakub is going to prepare for the school
20:23:16 #corewars: < jakub> but I will be watching the traffic from time to time
20:23:51 #corewars: < Roy> ok
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20:35:04 #corewars: < Mizcu> Heh, got rid of sis because of classic "Your enviroment is so customized that others have problems using"-phenomenon geeks have.
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20:39:12 #corewars: < Mizcu> hi Fiz
20:39:25 #corewars: < Fizmo> hi
20:40:31 #corewars: < Fizmo> how is going
20:40:32 #corewars: < Roy> Hello
20:40:56 #corewars: < Fizmo> h iRoy
20:42:00 #corewars: < Mizcu> Fiz, check todays log, Jakub had few links for you
20:42:15 #corewars: < Fizmo> ahh, I'll do
20:42:19 #corewars: < Fizmo> thx Jakub
20:46:42 #corewars: < Fizmo> Bought yesterday a webcam :)
20:47:55 #corewars:  * Roy is crafting a scanner now
20:48:22 #corewars: < Mizcu> "See Fizmo coding Digitalis v. 5.9! Only 0.99/hour live on our webcam!"
20:48:36 #corewars: < Fizmo> lol
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20:49:55 #corewars: < Fizmo> Hi Jeff
20:50:09 #corewars: < Jeff_K> Hi, what's going on ?
20:50:58 #corewars: < Fizmo> it seems not that much
20:51:06 #corewars: < Fizmo> 'til now ;-)
20:51:22 #corewars: < jakub> hello all
20:51:25 #corewars: < jakub> hi Fizmo
20:51:29 #corewars: < jakub> hi Jeff_K
20:51:45 #corewars: < jakub> Fizmo: aj have a lot of yummies for ya :)
20:51:51 #corewars: < jakub> aj = I :)
20:52:23 #corewars: < jakub> Fizmo: for example: download 06..mp3 from http://www.gjh.sk/~0kozisek
20:52:33 #corewars: < jakub> Mizcu: and thanks :)
20:52:46 #corewars: < Fizmo> Your music jakub?
20:53:20 #corewars: < jakub> on my webspace?
20:53:28 #corewars: < jakub> nope :)
20:55:00 #corewars: < Fizmo> If you're interested I could upload some of my own Metal songs ;-)
20:55:30 #corewars: < jakub> yes, of course - if they are your own
20:55:32 #corewars: < jakub> :)
20:55:45 #corewars: < jakub> have you downloaded it?
20:56:48 #corewars: < Fizmo> still on the way. It's not that fast
20:57:01 #corewars: < Fizmo> 7.8 kB/s
20:57:44 #corewars: < Roy> Yessss my scanner is now better then Recon in the benchmark! (doesn't say too much though)
20:58:11 #corewars: < Fizmo> Hey, cool
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20:58:33 #corewars: < willvarfa> howdy folks
20:58:34 #corewars: < jakub> wow!
20:58:43 #corewars: < jakub> hi Will!
20:58:44 #corewars: < willvarfa> can't promise 100% attention
20:58:55 #corewars: < Fizmo> hi
20:58:56 #corewars: < jakub> have you played with Hunter?
20:59:14 #corewars: < jakub> tthe chess engine has still bugs :-/
20:59:19 #corewars: < Jeff_K> O.K ladies and Gentlemen...Time for IRCT ;-) Who's alive ?
20:59:41 #corewars: < jakub> I don't have irct enviroment :-/
20:59:45 #corewars: < Mizcu> _o/
21:00:00 #corewars: < jakub> I will try to code something from head, maybe :)
21:00:29 #corewars: < Jeff_K> to jakub...you only need editor and a mars..the rest is intuition and speed coding. 
21:00:30 #corewars: < Roy> (o)
21:00:31 #corewars: < Fizmo> \O/
21:00:33 #corewars: < willvarfa> jakub, very very nice
21:00:39 #corewars: < willvarfa> Jeff_K, ready!
21:01:02 #corewars: < Roy> one second please! :)
21:01:03 #corewars: < willvarfa> which IRCT# is this?
21:01:06 #corewars: < Jeff_K> Mizcu
21:01:21 #corewars: < Jeff_K> Hmm, which number...33 1/3
21:01:49 #corewars: < Mizcu> have no idea
21:02:20 #corewars: < Jeff_K> O.K....the rules...
21:02:33 #corewars: < Jeff_K> Standart Tiny....
21:02:40 #corewars: < Jeff_K> -l 20
21:02:44 #corewars: < Mizcu> this one is irct 31
21:02:54 #corewars: < Jeff_K> o.k. irct 31
21:03:19 #corewars: < Roy> tiny...but the catch?
21:03:36 #corewars: < Jeff_K> in the first round entry run as they be. In the second round all instructions are changed by that pattern.
21:03:46 #corewars: < Jeff_K> add => sub
21:03:54 #corewars: < Jeff_K> mul => div
21:04:02 #corewars: < Jeff_K> jmp => spl
21:04:09 #corewars: < Jeff_K> dat => nop
21:04:17 #corewars: < Jeff_K> jmz => jmn
21:04:28 #corewars: < Jeff_K> seq => sne
21:04:47 #corewars: < Jeff_K> ony this instruction are allowed.
21:05:13 #corewars: < Jeff_K> and the mov, that will be not changed
21:05:26 #corewars: < willvarfa> so no spl?
21:05:41 #corewars: < Mizcu> are the changes reverible at second round,  spl => jmp  or plain jmp -> spl?
21:05:54 #corewars: < Mizcu> (reverSible)
21:05:55 #corewars: < Jeff_K> yes, the changes are reverible !
21:06:10 #corewars: < Jeff_K> jmp => spl => jmp
21:06:16 #corewars: < willvarfa> Jeff_K, can we have the pmars line please!
21:06:53 #corewars: < Jeff_K> pmars -s 800 -p 800 -c 8000 -l 20 -d 20
21:07:19 #corewars: < Jeff_K> Any questions about the rules?
21:07:36 #corewars: < Roy> so no djn allowed?
21:07:44 #corewars: < Jeff_K> Right
21:07:50 #corewars: < Roy> ok
21:08:06 #corewars: < Jeff_K> only one entry allowed
21:08:23 #corewars: < Jeff_K> Points are round1+round2 / 2
21:09:24 #corewars: < Jeff_K> 30 minutes from now !
21:11:40 #corewars: < Jeff_K> entry's to nc-zapfsa@netcologne.de
21:14:30 #corewars: < Fizmo> phew
21:15:20 #corewars: < jakub> :-/
21:18:04 #corewars: < Jeff_K> You can try to find out which round..and start a different warrior each round...
21:19:54 #corewars: < Roy> 1   Devilstick     Roy van Rijn     33   14   53   152.02   2 
21:19:54 #corewars: < Roy>   2   Spiritual Black Dimension     Christian Schmidt     38   29   33   145.98   44 
21:19:58 #corewars:  * Roy giggles
21:22:09 #corewars:  * Roy send his entry and goes away for a cup of thee
21:22:15 #corewars: < Roy> brb
21:27:01 #corewars: < Jeff_K> 15 minutes left...
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21:33:52 #corewars: < Jeff_K> 10 minutes left..
21:33:53 #corewars: < Mizcu> mail sent
21:34:17 #corewars: < Mizcu> lets hope mbnet wont lose it for 10+ minutes like before
21:34:32 #corewars: < Jeff_K> got it!
21:35:59 #corewars: < Fizmo> sent
21:36:57 #corewars: < Mizcu> i wont be the only one using *that* strategy, i can be sure of that.. (you'll see..)
21:37:14 #corewars: < Jeff_K> youre right mizcu
21:40:04 #corewars: < Jeff_K> Ok...i got Fizmo, Roy, Will and Mizcu....Jakub ?
21:42:50 #corewars: < Jeff_K> Jakub...still coding?
21:44:58 #corewars: < Jeff_K> Hey jakub..Times up...
21:47:26 #corewars: < Fizmo> huhuuuuu, Jakub
21:48:52 #corewars: < jakub> ehm, sorry
21:49:02 #corewars: < jakub> I was not coding
21:49:25 #corewars: < jakub> I have big tests tommorow, so I'm learning
21:51:51 #corewars: < jakub> hey, wheres the traffic? :)
21:51:52 #corewars: < Jeff_K> O.K., so i have all entry's i may invoke mts...;-)
21:52:45 #corewars: < jakub> Jeff_K: you don't have perl? ;)
21:53:07 #corewars: < Fizmo> lol
21:53:17 #corewars: < Jeff_K> these week i havent time to write a script sorry
21:53:18 #corewars: < Fizmo> shure he has :)
21:53:36 #corewars: < jakub> why? I have one :-p
21:53:51 #corewars: < jakub> http://www.gjh.sk/~0kozisek/progs/scheduler/
21:53:53 #corewars: < Fizmo> hey, cool
21:54:13 #corewars: < jakub> are we talking about tournament scheduler, right?
21:54:19 #corewars: < Jeff_K> o.k...let's start..gimme 5 minutes to calculate..
21:54:23 #corewars: < jakub> erm
21:55:54 #corewars: < Fizmo> still trying your scheduler
21:56:18 #corewars: < jakub> its old, but its working
21:56:28 #corewars: < jakub> or it was working
21:57:01 #corewars: < Mizcu> hmmm, almost got pisg working with my logfile, but it believes that "quits: will"  is a someone saying something..
21:57:19 #corewars: < will_varf> sorry Mizcu ;-)
21:57:19 #corewars: < jakub> I have busy days at school, so everything I do is just learning, learning, learning
21:57:26 #corewars: < Fizmo> must I assigne a directory?
21:57:35 #corewars: < Mizcu> (pisg = perl irc stat generator)
21:57:44 #corewars: < Fizmo> perl scheduler.pl ???
21:57:58 #corewars: < jakub> wait, I will look :)
21:59:25 #corewars: < jakub> only perl scheduler.pl
21:59:44 #corewars: < jakub> look into  the script, you have info there
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22:00:13 #corewars: < jakub> Fimo: working?
22:00:20 #corewars: < jakub> Fizmo
22:00:28 #corewars: < Jeff_K> And now...
22:00:37 #corewars: < Jeff_K> the fight of the millisecond..
22:00:38 #corewars: < jakub> sorry, I have old keyboard and my hands are shaking
22:00:53 #corewars: < Jeff_K> in a fight between three paper and a clear...
22:00:58 #corewars: < Jeff_K> tratarata
22:01:02 #corewars: < jakub> heh :)
22:01:09 #corewars: < Jeff_K> The first round...
22:01:10 #corewars: < Jeff_K> Rank    Name                    Author                   %W  %L  %T   Score
22:01:10 #corewars: < Jeff_K> ___________________________________________________________________________
22:01:10 #corewars: < Jeff_K>   1     Egged Again             Roy van Rijn             45  17  38   2172
22:01:11 #corewars: < Jeff_K>   2     IRCT-participant        Miz                      33   7  60   1995
22:01:11 #corewars: < Jeff_K>   3     TinyShapeChanger        Christian Schmidt        31  58  10   1308
22:01:12 #corewars: < Jeff_K>   4     Suitably Original       Will 'Varfar'            32  60   8   1294
22:01:14 #corewars: < Jeff_K> The second round...
22:01:15 #corewars: < Jeff_K> Rank    Name                    Author                   %W  %L  %T   Score
22:01:17 #corewars: < Jeff_K> ___________________________________________________________________________
22:01:19 #corewars: < Jeff_K>   1     IRCT-participant (=>)   Miz                      36   4  60   2098
22:01:21 #corewars: < Jeff_K>   2     Egged Again (=>)        Roy van Rijn             31   5  64   1964
22:01:23 #corewars: < Jeff_K>   3     Suitably Original (=>)  Will 'Varfar'            36  55   9   1452
22:01:25 #corewars: < Jeff_K>   4     TinyShapeChanger (=>)   Christian Schmidt        13  52  35   930
22:01:27 #corewars: < Jeff_K>   And the winner is
22:01:29 #corewars: < Jeff_K> 1)  Roy 4136
22:01:31 #corewars: < Jeff_K> 2)  Miz 4093
22:01:33 #corewars: < Jeff_K> 3)  Will 2746
22:01:36 #corewars: < Jeff_K> 4)  Fizmo 2238
22:01:42 #corewars: < Fizmo> Congrats
22:01:44 #corewars: < jakub> congrats Roy
22:01:48 #corewars: < Jeff_K> Congrats Roy and Mizcu...it's a very small gap
22:01:53 #corewars: < jakub> congrats Miz
22:02:14 #corewars: < jakub> nice work, ppl
22:02:22 #corewars: < jakub> Fizmo: is it working?
22:02:23 #corewars: < Fizmo> hrmm, it seems that there was a bug in my entry, or you guys are too good ;-)
22:02:34 #corewars: < jakub> :-p
22:02:37 #corewars: < willvarfa> congrats folks!
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22:02:51 #corewars: < Fizmo> Maybe because I am using ActivPerl 5.8
22:03:03 #corewars: < jakub> :-/
22:03:23 #corewars: < Fizmo> and I haven't tested if the actual pmars version still runs under XP
22:03:31 #corewars: < jakub> I was writing and testing it with normal perl
22:03:37 #corewars: < jakub> in linux 
22:03:38 #corewars: < willvarfa> so Jeff_K, the other three were papers?
22:03:42 #corewars: < Fizmo> commonly using exmars
22:03:49 #corewars: < Jeff_K> yes...
22:03:52 #corewars: < willvarfa> damn ;-)
22:04:03 #corewars: < jakub> Fizmo: do something for me ... install Linux :)
22:04:21 #corewars: < Fizmo> nop :)
22:04:27 #corewars:  * willvarfa *waves*
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22:04:36 #corewars: < Fizmo> because then I can't play Counterstrike
22:04:39 #corewars: < Fizmo> :)
22:04:54 #corewars: < jakub> can't you?!?
22:05:02 #corewars: < Jeff_K> Windows and Linux can be on the same system...
22:05:10 #corewars: < Mizcu> Phukkin' Steam
22:05:15 #corewars: < jakub> I thought, that there is Counterstrike for Linux too
22:05:18 #corewars: < Fizmo> erm, yes, you're rigth
22:05:21 #corewars: < jakub> yes, they can
22:05:28 #corewars: < Fizmo> really?
22:05:37 #corewars: < jakub> you can try to run counterstrike using wine :)
22:05:43 #corewars: < Roy> Grats Miz!
22:05:56 #corewars: < Mizcu> "you can _try_"
22:06:02 #corewars: < Roy> I saw the last scores first when I got back :o
22:06:03 #corewars: < jakub> I know, that there is quake 2 under linux
22:06:22 #corewars: < Mizcu> I have a Shogo:MAD for linux here
22:06:42 #corewars: < Mizcu> the problem is that i've lost the cd-key the first day i got it.. aaargh..
22:07:26 #corewars: < jakub> hmm, I see Counterstrike server for Linux
22:07:47 #corewars: < jakub> Mizcu: aren't you a warez boy? where is the problem then ;)
22:08:09 #corewars: < Mizcu> jakub: Shogo for windows doesnt use cd-key
22:08:23 #corewars: < jakub> hmm :-/
22:08:25 #corewars: < Fizmo> BTW, nice idea Jeff, thanks for this nice round
22:08:48 #corewars: < Roy> Yes, are you going to send the entries to Fizmo?
22:08:57 #corewars: < Roy> Or upload them yourself?
22:09:03 #corewars: < Mizcu> Oh well, my friend has finally gotten a copy of the cd so i can take 2nd generation copy and play it with no burden on my mind
22:09:07 #corewars: < jakub> I'm download shogo:mad serial
22:09:13 #corewars: < jakub> download=downloading
22:09:20 #corewars: < jakub> wait
22:09:27 #corewars: < Mizcu> (but problem 2: the game doesnt like DX 9..)
22:10:08 #corewars: < Mizcu> so now i need a third computer for playing all games i want =/
22:10:44 #corewars: < jakub> I'm 8th in queue
22:12:06 #corewars: < jakub> Fizmo: are you there?
22:12:10 #corewars: < Fizmo> Roy: they will appear on my page
22:12:15 #corewars: < Fizmo> Yes
22:12:20 #corewars: < jakub> http://www.counter-strike.net/linux_full.html
22:12:27 #corewars: < jakub> :)
22:13:04 #corewars: < Fizmo> thx, Jakub
22:13:13 #corewars: < jakub> "you must first have the latest Half-Life HLDS Linux Port as a base"
22:13:18 #corewars: < jakub> :-/
22:13:23 #corewars: < jakub> I will look at it
22:14:18 #corewars: < jakub> you don't have it, right?
22:14:45 #corewars: < Fizmo> right
22:15:28 #corewars: < Fizmo> Well, I will inform me about Linux installation beside XP. Maybe it could be usefull :)
22:19:25 #corewars: < Fizmo> Still hear Impellitteri. Cool!!!
22:24:32 #corewars: < Mizcu> Oh phuck
22:26:39 #corewars: < Mizcu> It seems that Pisg doesnt like either my or jaska's old log-form so no UlTrA KeWl!!1! log-statistics this time
22:26:57 #corewars: < Mizcu> and i am too bored to leech all the new logs/jakub's logs
22:28:21 #corewars: < jakub> I've made a big mistake!
22:29:06 #corewars: < jakub> I put "halflife" as a searchstring in emule
22:29:33 #corewars: < jakub> it flooded my system and the Win displayed me BSOTD
22:29:39 #corewars: < jakub> so I rebooted
22:30:08 #corewars: < Mizcu> try "Porn" next time 
22:30:09 #corewars: < jakub> Fizmo: hehe, everybody likes that song
22:30:17 #corewars: < jakub> Mizcu: :)
22:30:47 #corewars: < jakub> Fizmo: I'm going to learn it, just give me a metronom and 6 or 7 years :)
22:30:50 #corewars: < Fizmo> :)
22:31:09 #corewars: < Fizmo> Well, I guess I need the same time for learning it :)
22:31:52 #corewars: < jakub> but I'm really going to learn it
22:32:20 #corewars: < jakub> I think I can push the main theme to 160 without probleme in some days
22:32:44 #corewars: < jakub> then I have to speed it to my lickspeed (180bpm)
22:33:10 #corewars: < jakub> but its played at 210bp :-/
22:33:14 #corewars: < jakub> bpm
22:33:53 #corewars: < jakub> Fizmo: whats your tremolo speed?
22:34:00 #corewars: < Fizmo> wow, I am a bit out of practice since some years :-/
22:34:13 #corewars: < Fizmo> I don't have a tremolo
22:34:28 #corewars: < jakub> what?
22:34:49 #corewars: < jakub> tremolo = maximum speed (measured by playing on one string)
22:34:59 #corewars: < Fizmo> But I am still working on a song which has 180 bpm
22:35:03 #corewars: < jakub> http://www.gjh.sk/~0kozisek/tremolo.wav
22:35:35 #corewars: < jakub> its sloppy, because I was not practising some weeks
22:35:39 #corewars: < Fizmo> ups, I think it's a bit to late for me.
22:35:55 #corewars:  * Fizmo think on a metronom instead of a tremolo
22:36:24 #corewars: < jakub> have you heart it?
22:36:41 #corewars: < Fizmo> no, I'll dowmload it tomorrow
22:36:51 #corewars: < jakub> sorry for the effect, its nice when listening to it live, but its very ugly when recording
22:36:59 #corewars: < jakub> its small file
22:37:03 #corewars: < Fizmo> And I'll upload some mp3's to my homepage
22:37:20 #corewars: < jakub> very cool!
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22:37:52 #corewars: < Fizmo> But most of my stuff is at least 8 years old
22:37:54 #corewars: < bvowk> wow
22:37:56 #corewars: < bvowk> full house
22:37:58 #corewars: < Fizmo> hi
22:38:16 #corewars: < jakub> you are mainly keyboard or guitar player?
22:38:18 #corewars: < bvowk> hey fiz
22:38:22 #corewars: < jakub> hi bvowk!
22:38:30 #corewars: < bvowk> hi jakub
22:39:07 #corewars: < Roy> not fullhouse yet, joonas/metcalf/grabun where ae they? :)
22:40:00 #corewars:  * bvowk knows not
22:40:52 #corewars: < jakub> Fizmo: that Q was for you
22:43:03 #corewars: < Fizmo> Q?
22:43:18 #corewars: < Fizmo> ohh
22:43:21 #corewars: < jakub> 22:38:16 here
22:44:00 #corewars: < Roy> Ok guys, this warrior might get on the nop hill!
22:44:01 #corewars: < Fizmo> Mainly guitar, but since 6 years more and more keayboards
22:44:46 #corewars: < jakub> so why you've chosen Fizmo and not Ernie Ball? ;)
22:45:06 #corewars: < jakub> maybe because its  not too far from Ernie's Ball :)
22:46:01 #corewars: < Fizmo> Because I really like that Ensoniq's synthesizer
22:46:19 #corewars: < jakub> check out Jordan Ruddas!
22:46:34 #corewars: < jakub> thats my favourite keyboard player
22:46:42 #corewars: < jakub> he is playing in DreamTheater
22:47:03 #corewars: < jakub> download LTE (Liquid Tension Experiment)
22:47:29 #corewars: < Fizmo> Well, if you ask me haow good I am playing keyboard I must say: very, very badly
22:48:01 #corewars: < Fizmo> because most of it I am doing on the PC not on the keyboard
22:48:06 #corewars: < jakub> you don't need to be god, when listening to Rudess
22:48:19 #corewars: < jakub> sorry, its not Ruddas
22:48:40 #corewars: < jakub> do you have DSL now?
22:48:48 #corewars: < Fizmo> yes :)
22:49:06 #corewars: < jakub> I can upload it to your FTP
22:49:08 #corewars: < jakub> soace
22:49:13 #corewars: < jakub> space :)
22:49:24 #corewars: < Fizmo> ermhh, I am very sorry, I have to go now
22:49:39 #corewars: < Fizmo> Jakub: are you tomorrow evening online?
22:50:06 #corewars: < jakub> you don't have FTP space somewhere?
22:50:09 #corewars: < Fizmo> maybe we can chat tomorrow here on irc
22:50:14 #corewars: < jakub> I can upload it at night
22:50:21 #corewars: < Roy> Wooo! I have all kinds of warrior on the hill now, a paper/scanner/stone/vampire
22:50:32 #corewars: < jakub> Roy: cool
22:50:48 #corewars:  * Fizmo must go now
22:51:09 #corewars:  * Fizmo waves
22:51:17 #corewars: < jakub> bye then :(
22:51:27 #corewars:  * Jeff_K must go too...
22:51:32 #corewars: < Fizmo> jakub: I am tomorrow here on irc, sorry :-(
22:51:33 #corewars: < jakub> write mail!
22:51:36 #corewars:  * Roy is going too, bye!
22:51:39 #corewars: < Fizmo> ok, I do
22:51:43 #corewars: < Mizcu> Static is quite enjoying the current compostion of the hill
22:51:45 #corewars: < jakub> bye all
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22:51:52 #corewars:  * jakub waves :(
22:51:56 #corewars:  * Jeff_K waves and thanks for all participants.
22:52:00 #corewars: < Roy> Recon and Hazy don't :(
22:52:01 #corewars: < jakub> SAD MOMENT :(
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22:53:15 #corewars: < Mizcu> oh well, theres going to be a new paper on the hill soon, if my optimizations will be going all right
22:53:35 #corewars: < jakub> very good, Mizcu
22:54:30 #corewars: < Roy> Beat those nasty stones, and help those poor scanners (including mine)
22:57:00 #corewars: < Mizcu> beating the stones is still in the works.. (all optimization so far has been done castrated)
23:00:21 #corewars: < Roy> There are a lot of stones on the hill...3/4/5/6/7/11/12
23:00:45 #corewars: < Roy> Easy to get points from, see Devilstick :)
23:00:55 #corewars: < Roy> Slime is pretty high
23:01:14 #corewars: < jakub> hmm, time for paper :)
23:01:41 #corewars: < Roy> 13 is also a bomber, Quirk...? dunno what that is
23:02:01 #corewars: < Mizcu> Quirk is a stone -> oneshot if i remember right
23:02:19 #corewars: < Roy> Huh? heh sounds nice
23:02:57 #corewars: < jakub> strange strategy
23:03:02 #corewars: < Roy> Its pretty paper-time, altough...papers hurt Devilstick with ties :( its lead will go away quickly then
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23:04:13 #corewars: < Mizcu> strange? not really, smack other scanners and oneshots with a stone and use oneshot to kill those that dont die on single bomb
23:05:03 #corewars: < jakub> but oneshots are effective, because they kill papers very early, right?
23:05:14 #corewars: < jakub> (are so effective)
23:05:18 #corewars: < Roy> well, papers are hard to kill further in the game
23:05:28 #corewars: < Roy> So I guess its the other way around
23:05:42 #corewars: < jakub> yep, thats my point
23:05:59 #corewars: < jakub> maybe oneshot -> stone will be better :)
23:06:08 #corewars: < Roy> oneshot stuns the papers then initilizes a stone with kills other scanners and turns into a clear killing or the stunned paper or the leftovers from scanners
23:06:44 #corewars: < jakub> hehe, we are thinking the same way
23:06:45 #corewars: < Mizcu> oneshots are effective because their attack originates from area smaller than classical scanner
23:07:02 #corewars: < jakub> handshake :)
23:07:19 #corewars: < Roy> Early oneshots (the first actualy) worked by scanning and stunning then launching a paper to kill everything off
23:07:29 #corewars: < Roy> (and also getting rit of stones)
23:07:43 #corewars: < Mizcu> oneshot -> stone wont work because the stone wont have enough time to crate large enough amount of color
23:07:49 #corewars: < Roy> So I think its that way round
23:08:36 #corewars: < Mizcu> Unless you are using q/t-scan-> oneshot
23:09:18 #corewars: < Roy> oneshot could end after just 200 instructions if its scanning for big warriors or statring papers (all papers have qscans > 50 instr.)
23:09:36 #corewars: < jakub> yep
23:09:53 #corewars: < Roy> Then you have about 7500 left for the stone
23:10:07 #corewars: < jakub> im copying this conversation into file and putting on desktop
23:10:10 #corewars: < Roy> (scanning would take about 300/400 instructions if you want to scan all 50 pos.
23:10:11 #corewars: < Mizcu> we have a debate here..
23:11:23 #corewars: < Roy> So you have the first 300/400 killing weak starting papers, your only worry is being found by a scanner...after that scanners are doomed
23:11:34 #corewars: < Roy> I don't know how fast scanners are in finding you
23:13:31 #corewars: < Roy> We'll ask Fizmo about that warrior ;)
23:13:41 #corewars: < Roy> Because its bedtime for me!
23:13:57 #corewars: < Mizcu> oneshot's biggest enemies are other scanners and tricky code, not (always) s/i's
23:14:00 #corewars: < Roy> I'll look into the log tomorrow what the conclusion it :)
23:15:10 #corewars: < Roy> no no no, oneshots biggest enemy is stones, not scanners, the pro oneshots have are the size, they beat scanners, if they bump into just ONE bomb from a stone they start clearing
23:15:32 #corewars: < Roy> become slow and get bombed themselfs
23:16:27 #corewars: < Mizcu> and reduce their vulnerable size by the size of the scan-loop
23:17:04 #corewars: < Roy> 157.43 /  150.48 <- I have ALMOST 7 points lead! yessss i'm dreaming
23:17:11 #corewars:  * Roy waves!!
23:17:17 -!- Roy [~roy_van_r@kf-mss-cb01-00228.dial.kabelfoon.nl] has quit []
23:17:17 #corewars: < jakub> holy shit!
23:17:58 #corewars: < jakub> I was browsing on erm national geographic type of sites and then I saw photo of my schoolmate (girl)
23:18:00 #corewars: < jakub> 8-0
23:18:20 #corewars: < jakub> if its not she, its a twin
23:18:26 #corewars: < jakub> 8-0 8-0
23:20:05 #corewars: < jakub> ufff
23:23:09 #corewars: < jakub> Mizcu: no response?
23:23:15 #corewars: < jakub> :)
23:23:57 #corewars: < Mizcu> i am too occupied to allocate prosessing power for answering such phenomenon
23:25:20 #corewars: < Mizcu> (x percent thinking stone/shot, y watching anime, few for upkeep)
23:25:37 #corewars: < jakub> :)
23:28:14 #corewars: < Mizcu> What about Fuse/O--* ? , it is stone -> ssd
23:29:22 #corewars: < jakub> try it
23:30:00 #corewars: < Mizcu> difference between stone/shot is that ss would have slightly better bomb-rating and slightly bigger footprint
23:48:09 #corewars: < Mizcu> damnit
23:48:16 #corewars: < jakub> ?
23:49:41 #corewars: < Mizcu> getting a bit too tired to think about it, but the s/os/s-dilemma just keeps puzzling me
23:50:07 #corewars: < jakub> get a coffee and continue :)
23:51:59 #corewars: < Mizcu> [simple] how would s/os with against other os?   how would os/s against other os? [/simple]
23:52:22 #corewars:  * jakub is to tired for cw related discussion
23:52:45 #corewars: < jakub> I slept only 4 hours
23:52:52 #corewars: < jakub> because of the damn school
23:53:02 #corewars: < jakub> but till now, I have still just As
23:56:01 #corewars: < Mizcu> 1: oneshot finds no big opponents so there is a reson to believe that the opponent is a either good hider (becoming rare) or a tiny bastard. 
23:59:44 #corewars: < Mizcu> If it is a tiny bastard then it is probably a s/i.   If it is a good hider, there is a change that it is a scanner with freakin'ly lucky transparency
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